Should Dom Capers be the Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator in 2014?· Page 5

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

Greene's been an assistant for what, 4 years? lol

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

He became a coach for the Packers in 2009. Your point is what? That 4 years of coaching along with 14 years as a player is not enough to know what the entire defense should be doing?

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#42

There are teams with personnel that arent really anything special but their defenses are a lot better

wpr
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10 years ago

#43

There are teams with personnel that arent really anything special but their defenses are a lot better

Originally Posted by: steveishere

= better coaching.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#44

And also maybe their personnel is a little better than you assume it is. We are all outsiders so we really don't know. Our hope is that what has happened this year is correctly evaluation in the off-season and the right change comes from that. I expect coaching turnover though, but it comes at a price.

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DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

#45

I'd actually rather go with Mike Singletary. I think Kevin Greene is pretty decent at his current job, but you don't promote the C student to a manager position. There's a higher level of thinking involved in the DC position. And I would take for granted our tackling would get better.

Mucky Tundra
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#46

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

What would they run under Singletary? 3-4 or 4-3.

I remember my dad telling me about how good the Bears D was back in the 80s and how bad they wanted to beat teams. Told me that one time Singletary was asked by a reporter what would be a good day on defense for the Bears. His response? Zero yards allowed.

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wpr
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10 years ago

#47

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

I forgot Mike was out there. I like his passion too. 👍

texaspackerbacker
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10 years ago

#48

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

How long has Singletary been out of coaching, and why? The Bears ran 4-3 with him, so that would be the safe assumption.

What is the fascination some have with Greene? He seems like nothing more than a WWE loud mouth clown - ok for firing up players on the sidelines, but not equipped for any planning or scheming of a defense. Maybe THAT is why no other team has grabbed him.

I say again, the Packers would be stupid to keep Capers' system and get rid of Capers. And with the weak personnel the Packers have, we simply CAN'T play straight up normal defense. We NEED some kind of scheming/finessing/trickery/outguessing in order to stop anybody.

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Mucky Tundra
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10 years ago

#49

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

I meant when he coached the 49ers d? That was a 4-3 unit yes?

Well, seeing how the past 4 games teams have mopped the floor with our D maybe we need a guy who can get these guys fired up and willing to hit people and make plays. I'll take the rah rah rah guys on D over guys like Capers who have the energy level of an old man playing checkers.

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play2win
Senior Member

10 years ago

#50

Both our personnel and our coaching are being outclassed on a regular basis.

We are clearly not as well off personnel-wise as some of us may have thought. Our wins v. Redskins, Lions, Ravens, Browns and Vikings gave us a good standing statistically going into the Bears game, but our defense was well handled by the offenses of SF and CIN. Since that time we have literally tanked on D.

If defense wins championships, we are not in the race at all and we should be bowing out of this season. We should be looking to save Aaron Rodgers from further injury instead of rushing his return to the lineup. Reload and retool next season. Get a new defensive coaching staff in place, and give them to players they really need… and, Mike McCarthy runs this staff. He should be having his feet held to the fire for letting this get so out of control, which is exactly what it is. Out of control.

This is clearly a bad team, save for a handful of players, masked by the extraordinary talents of Aaron Rodgers. If anything, Rodgers' injury is giving us a clear read on our weaknesses, and they look pretty severe. Both coaching and personnel.

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