People saying a TE but I really don't think it is that huge of a need. If we have Nelson, Cobb, Jones and Boykin, is a TE really that important? Quarless did a very good job at the end and he is a good blocker. I would worry more about the lines and safety. I see on walters football they have us taking Mosely at ILB.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

I don't think it's that different from any other position, really. TE just has lower positional value. Or used to have. Right now, I'd take a TE of Gronk's or Graham's caliber with the 21st pick in a heartbeat.

Not going BPA and drafting purely for need is what teams like the Jaguars tend to do. That nets you guys like Alualu at 10 overall and Gabbert in that same slot. The Lions did the same thing before they started drafting BPA. They've take a big step up from those days since they went with a guy like Farley, even though DT wasn't a need at that time.

The draft is just not something you should fill holes with like that. That's what FA is for. Even if we do barely use FA, that doesn't mean you want to go and then use the draft as a substitute.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 

I do not know if it applies to safety, but Jason Wilde did say the Packers wouldn't take Matt Elam because of his height. One cornerback in nine drafts doesn't do much to debunk the rule. Plus, I believe Hayward was listed as 6-1 at Vanderbilt. Colleges do exaggerate height, but it's not as if he's as small as Lamarcus Joyner or Terrell Buckley. I’m sure Thompson (and Wolf) had exceptions over their tenure as GM, but I’m guessing it was rare. Regardless, it would surprise me if the Packers took Joyner or any cornerback that small.

Originally Posted by: porky88 

Oh, so now it's cornerback, not defensive back? 🙄 I didn't check every draft, only a few random ones. (wink wink Rockmolder)


I called it the Terrell Buckley rule because he was a CORNER that was sub six feet AND from Florida State who basically was a massive flop for the Packers. Granted, he later went on to have a admirable career with teams like the Dolphins. I still remember the crowd erupting with cheers when he signaled fair catch AND caught the ball lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Oh, so now it's cornerback, not defensive back? 🙄 I didn't check every draft, only a few random ones. (wink wink Rockmolder)


I called it the Terrell Buckley rule because he was a CORNER that was sub six feet AND from Florida State who basically was a massive flop for the Packers. Granted, he later went on to have a admirable career with teams like the Dolphins. I still remember the crowd erupting with cheers when he signaled fair catch AND caught the ball lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I don't think it's that different from any other position, really. TE just has lower positional value. Or used to have. Right now, I'd take a TE of Gronk's or Graham's caliber with the 21st pick in a heartbeat.

Not going BPA and drafting purely for need is what teams like the Jaguars tend to do. That nets you guys like Alualu at 10 overall and Gabbert in that same slot. The Lions did the same thing before they started drafting BPA. They've take a big step up from those days since they went with a guy like Farley, even though DT wasn't a need at that time.

The draft is just not something you should fill holes with like that. That's what FA is for. Even if we do barely use FA, that doesn't mean you want to go and then use the draft as a substitute.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 

I did check every one of Ted Thompson's drafts and I did not find a single cornerback under 5-11. It is the Terrell Buckley rule. I thought it applied to 6-0 and under, but Beast correctly pointed out that it is 5-10 and under. For what it's worth, I found no DB smaller than 5-10. Regardless, this rules out Florida State CB/S Lamarcus Joyner, who I find to be one of the most instinctive players in this draft.

Originally Posted by: porky88 

The only way to correctly point it out is to source the rule directly to Ted Thompson's words. I have yet to see that. Otherwise we can surmise there is a rule to not draft Wisconsin players since Ted Thompson as Packers GM (not sure about Seattle time as draft guru). Or about a hundred other "rules".


I liked that Tyrann Mathieu (sp) coming out of college, but figured he was too short especially after Charles Woodson said something about the Packers needed to get bigger and faster and someone on the staff agreed with him.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool