Yerko
10 years ago
This year, more than in the past...I see Packers fans getting more upset about Ted not making any moves in free agency. Clearly, its because we have all witnessed how poor this defense has played the past couple of seasons coupled with the cap increase and the Packers having $33 million available. While we have plenty of our own players to sign (still yet to happen aside from Shields and it will happen with a few others) I thought it was important that Ted and Co. at least go out and grab one *star* player, preferably at safety, to shape this defense up.

...that was until I saw how ridiculous some of these contracts were. Ted doesn't play this game and as a fan, I am happy he doesn't. Some of these teams are strapping themselves down (in the future) because of 1-2 players. Saints signed Byrd to a contract for 6 years and while this year might not have an affect, the upcoming years certainly will.

The only contract that has made me slightly upset so far is the TJ Ward/Broncos contract. Imo, that would have been an absolute steal and helped the Packers immensely at the safety position. 4 years/$23 million, $14 million guaranteed. Maybe the guaranteed money is a bit high but sometimes you have to make that move for a player like that, at that price (compared to what other players are getting). He's young, injury free and can play the position well.

I do agree though with the OP. I like that Ted is sticking to his guns and especially since this is one of the deepest drafts in awhile. There's a good chance we are able to re-sign some of our guys for a little cheaper than they used to be and pick up a couple of day 1 starters in the draft in rounds 1-3.
UserPostedImage
10 years ago

This year, more than in the past...I see Packers fans getting more upset about Ted not making any moves in free agency. Clearly, its because we have all witnessed how poor this defense has played the past couple of seasons coupled with the cap increase and the Packers having $33 million available. While we have plenty of our own players to sign (still yet to happen aside from Shields and it will happen with a few others) I thought it was important that Ted and Co. at least go out and grab one *star* player, preferably at safety, to shape this defense up.

...that was until I saw how ridiculous some of these contracts were. Ted doesn't play this game and as a fan, I am happy he doesn't. Some of these teams are strapping themselves down (in the future) because of 1-2 players. Saints signed Byrd to a contract for 6 years and while this year might not have an affect, the upcoming years certainly will.

The only contract that has made me slightly upset so far is the TJ Ward/Broncos contract. Imo, that would have been an absolute steal and helped the Packers immensely at the safety position. 4 years/$23 million, $14 million guaranteed. Maybe the guaranteed money is a bit high but sometimes you have to make that move for a player like that, at that price (compared to what other players are getting). He's young, injury free and can play the position well.

I do agree though with the OP. I like that Ted is sticking to his guns and especially since this is one of the deepest drafts in awhile. There's a good chance we are able to re-sign some of our guys for a little cheaper than they used to be and pick up a couple of day 1 starters in the draft in rounds 1-3.

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



I couldn't agree more.

The only two that were upsetting for me were the TJ Ward and Stevie Brown contracts.
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QCHuskerFan
10 years ago

This year, more than in the past...I see Packers fans getting more upset about Ted not making any moves in free agency. Clearly, its because we have all witnessed how poor this defense has played the past couple of seasons coupled with the cap increase and the Packers having $33 million available. While we have plenty of our own players to sign (still yet to happen aside from Shields and it will happen with a few others) I thought it was important that Ted and Co. at least go out and grab one *star* player, preferably at safety, to shape this defense up.

...that was until I saw how ridiculous some of these contracts were. Ted doesn't play this game and as a fan, I am happy he doesn't. Some of these teams are strapping themselves down (in the future) because of 1-2 players. Saints signed Byrd to a contract for 6 years and while this year might not have an affect, the upcoming years certainly will.

The only contract that has made me slightly upset so far is the TJ Ward/Broncos contract. Imo, that would have been an absolute steal and helped the Packers immensely at the safety position. 4 years/$23 million, $14 million guaranteed. Maybe the guaranteed money is a bit high but sometimes you have to make that move for a player like that, at that price (compared to what other players are getting). He's young, injury free and can play the position well.

I do agree though with the OP. I like that Ted is sticking to his guns and especially since this is one of the deepest drafts in awhile. There's a good chance we are able to re-sign some of our guys for a little cheaper than they used to be and pick up a couple of day 1 starters in the draft in rounds 1-3.

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



I agree. And you would think we would have learned something from last year. Bad running game. Everyone screaming about Stephen Jackson. Ted Thompson doesn't budge. Drafts Lacy. Becomes OROY. Running game solved. Fans happy. Just another day for TT.

Now, bad defense. (Not the first year for that though). Fans clamoring to sign old, injured, expensive Free Agents. Ted Thompson doesn't budge. Man, I am excited for the draft!!!
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

I agree. And you would think we would have learned something from last year. Bad running game. Everyone screaming about Stephen Jackson. Ted Thompson doesn't budge. Drafts Lacy. Becomes OROY. Running game solved. Fans happy. Just another day for TT.

Now, bad defense. (Not the first year for that though). Fans clamoring to sign old, injured, expensive Free Agents. Ted Thompson doesn't budge. Man, I am excited for the draft!!!

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



Linebacker - Inside especially, Outside secondarily, yeah, I agree, but Safety, no. A proven veteran is what we need. Neither Ward - gone now - nor Byrd are chronic injury problems. Drafting a Safety and starting him would help down the road if the guy was good, but for this year, we need to fill that hole with an experienced but still talented veteran.


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steveishere
10 years ago
I've never been a huge fan of the megadeal free agency. I won't complain over some starter level competition signings though at reasonable prices. I think you have to rely on the draft to get your playmakers and such. If we just had some good health for once everything would be fine lol.
QCHuskerFan
10 years ago
How much is reasonable to spend to repair a cracked windshield on a car with a blown engine?

When did we see the best Safety play in recent years? Was it coincidentally when our DL was the best? Is Jairus Byrd so good that he can provide pass coverage for 3,4, 5+ seconds? And step up to make TFL on every running play?

We are potentially losing 3 DL that accounted for 40 of the possible 48 starts in 2013. And they weren't very good starts. Who is going to step up and log those starts? That is way more important to me than blowing big money on a S. No S can cover up for bad DL play.
PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
If we don't go out and spend some money in FA, what are we going to do with it? Even with Shields done. We have tons of space and along with the new CBA came a minimum cap. There is an amount of cap money we must spend. We could get ahead and do both Nelson and Cobb this year, but that will just leave us with huge cap space next year to deal with again.

We need a pass rush and there is far from a guarantee that what we have will be able to get that done. Would live for Matthews to come back 100% of what he was in the past, love for Perry and the rest to turn in to beasts on the line. But I'm not willing to bet the house on it (and it aint even a great house).

Just don't see inhouse players to justify getting paid enough to eat our cap space.
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Laser Gunns
10 years ago



If this draft does not rock. I think the D is in for another crap year.

Too many holes.

Too many players not producing.

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DoddPower
10 years ago

If this draft does not rock. I think the D is in for another crap year.

Too many holes.

Too many players not producing.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Exactly. Ted Thompson gambles as much on the draft as other GM's gamble on free agency. It doesn't have to be all one way or another. There is a reasonable middle ground, at least for some teams. Ted and staff simply haven't been drafting good enough lately to only rely on the draft. He had better have a GREAT draft class this year, and have multiple young players take the next step. It's certainly possible, but it would make me nervous as a GM.
porky88
10 years ago
There’s a big gap between going on a free-agent spending spree and just boycotting the process altogether, which is what the Packers have done for the last several off-seasons. Personally, I’d prefer the Packers to settle in the middle.
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