Smokey
9 years ago
Returning to GB Packers Talk !

:angel11:
UserPostedImage
greengold
9 years ago

He signed Jeff Saturday because he thought he could help the team. If all he was concerned about the comp pick he wouldn't have signed him.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I believe Saturday was signed with the expectation that he could help the team and with the expectation that it would cost a 4th or 5th round draft pick.

It just turned out to be a miscalculation of how much Saturday had left in the tank.

Smokey
9 years ago
What Draft and Compensatory picks do the Packers currently own ?

Where are the stat hogs when you need them ?


:angel11:
UserPostedImage
beast
9 years ago

What Draft and Compensatory picks do the Packers currently own ?

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I believe the Packers have the 30th pick in each round and I already answered you about the Comp picks when you asked the first time....

I don't believe they've been released yet, but should be coming in the next week, I think, as the NFL normally releases them during or shortly after the NFL Owners late March meetings (March 22-25: Annual Meeting, Phoenix, Arizona. )

I believe the Packers should be getting two 6th round comp picks, one for C Evan Dietrich-Smith and one for WR James Jones. And possible a 7th round comp pick for OL Marshall Newhouse if he got enough to meet the minimum for a 7th round pick.

Originally Posted by: beast 


UserPostedImage
Smokey
9 years ago
Thanks Beast, thought maybe other members may have had more info.

:8:
UserPostedImage
beast
9 years ago

Thanks Beast, thought maybe other members may have had more info.

:8:

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Very true... other members could, in theory, have access inside the NFL and could already know what the comp picks will be months in advance. Or could make up some stuff... :magnifygl

There should be official info coming out within the week (I think) and another member will probably post it before I do.

But my wild guess is that the Packers picks will look something like this
#30
#62
#94
#129
#165
#203
#209 (comp 6th pick)
#210 (comp 6th pick)
#246

With a possible comp 7th pick as a possible.


Others are free to guess what the pre-draft picks will be.

UserPostedImage
sschind
9 years ago

I think you're very mistaken here. To me there seems to be a clear set formula for the NFL that they use year in and year out (that they won't release to the public), that's largely based on average dollar amount per year of the new contract equally to a certain percentage of the NFL set cap limit. I believe it was correctly guess about the Packers getting a 3rd and 5th round comp picks last year based on Jennings' (9 million per year) and Walden's (4 million per year deal). Now those aren't the only factors... which makes it harder especially when there is an extreme in one of the other factors.

Now the cap has gone up and with Dietrich-Smith's $3.56+ per year deal and Jones' 3.33+ deal, I don't think they'll be 5th round picks like Walden was, but it all depends on where that threshold in the formula is really.





Very true... they only give out 32 picks (so basically it's really 8 rounds of drafting).

But the top 32 net FA transactions to get a comp pick if they meet a minimum requirement (which again isn't released) but they have the last two years. My guess is that Newhouse and C.J. Wilson aren't going to meet the minimum.

Originally Posted by: beast 



You are right, there is a formula. With the 32 picks though it is no guarantee that you will get a comp pick for your guy especially if he is on the lower end. Do you know if the picks by round are limited in any way? Only so many after each round for example or if 32 guys would all sign deals that qualified them for the highest round pick would they all get it or would the lower end ones get bumped down or would there just be no lower round picks?
beast
9 years ago

Do you know if the picks by round are limited in any way?

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Not that I know of... the highest is 3rd round, which it takes a lot to get a 3rd round, I think it's over $8 million per year... so there normally isn't a ton of them. But 4th round and the rest can go up and down... for example in 2010 draft, ONE 4th round comp picks. In 2012 draft there are EIGHT 4th round comp picks.

But comp picks are limited to 4 per year for a single team... so if a team loses 5 players to big / good size money deals, the best they can get is 4 comp picks. Which I think in 2012 some complained about because the Packers could of possible got 5 comp picks if not for that rules (3 of the five would of been 7th round picks and the two they got busted, just saying). And the Packers did pick up Don Barclay as an UDFA so maybe that all worked out.

Also as talked about... comp picks are based on net FA... so if you lose someone to a $6 million a year deal, and sign an outside FA to a $3 million per year deal... I guess the net would be $3 million... of course add in the other factors as well, which is how Jeff Saturday took out Scott Wells comp pick... I thought it would just lower it... but not take it out. But with Wells getting injured and only playing 7 games and Saturday making the probowl, they leveled each other out.

In other words:Hope Williams and House get all the other factors as well! Hope they get lots of playing time and maybe even postseason honors... (Packers vote them to the probowl so they Packers might get a higher comp pick đź‘Ť

Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor.

wikipedia  wrote:



UserPostedImage
Mucky Tundra
9 years ago
From another thread, reposting it here:computer:

Projecting the Compensatory Draft Picks for 2015 

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



It'd be nice if we could scoop up a 7th rounder like it has projected there since it seems like Ted Thompson has used 7th rounders in recent years to get exclusive rights to priority UDFAs and long term projects.
“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
UserPostedImage
"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
sschind
9 years ago

Not that I know of... the highest is 3rd round, which it takes a lot to get a 3rd round, I think it's over $8 million per year... so there normally isn't a ton of them. But 4th round and the rest can go up and down... for example in 2010 draft, ONE 4th round comp picks. In 2012 draft there are EIGHT 4th round comp picks.

But comp picks are limited to 4 per year for a single team... so if a team loses 5 players to big / good size money deals, the best they can get is 4 comp picks. Which I think in 2012 some complained about because the Packers could of possible got 5 comp picks if not for that rules (3 of the five would of been 7th round picks and the two they got busted, just saying). And the Packers did pick up Don Barclay as an UDFA so maybe that all worked out.

Also as talked about... comp picks are based on net FA... so if you lose someone to a $6 million a year deal, and sign an outside FA to a $3 million per year deal... I guess the net would be $3 million... of course add in the other factors as well, which is how Jeff Saturday took out Scott Wells comp pick... I thought it would just lower it... but not take it out. But with Wells getting injured and only playing 7 games and Saturday making the probowl, they leveled each other out.

In other words:Hope Williams and House get all the other factors as well! Hope they get lots of playing time and maybe even postseason honors... (Packers vote them to the probowl so they Packers might get a higher comp pick đź‘Ť


Originally Posted by: beast 



Thanks for the details Beast.

Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (25m) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (25m) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Insane about Kingsley
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
dfosterf (28-Apr) : We got Peter Bowde
dfosterf (28-Apr) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
dfosterf (28-Apr) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings
beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
beast (27-Apr) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023
beast (27-Apr) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones
beast (27-Apr) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.
dhazer (27-Apr) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score
dhazer (27-Apr) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now
Martha Careful (27-Apr) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

16h / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

16h / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / beast

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

4-May / Packers Draft Threads / bboystyle

4-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.