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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Had Janis and Adams switched draft position, their playing time would've flip flopped. The common response would be...yeah, but that's why they were drafted where they were...one guy was better than the other. I don't know about that. Davante played in some crazy throw it all over the field O at Fresno and Janis came from the little leagues but like Texas said... Janis in his brief window on our TV's looked special and Davante just looks like any other WR we've had here in the past that wasn't top flight.

I've been screaming for some true playmakers on this O and Montgomery appears to be what I've been wanting save for his lack of super 40 time. We've needed a burner for so long...Janis is about as close as we have. Coxson's 40 times are all over the map and I don't trust he's a sub 4.3 guy.

It's hard for me to believe we won't be keeping 6 WR's this season. We know that 4 are locks in Jordy, RC18, Davante and Ty...that leaves 1 or 2 more spots. Abby and Janis are the returning drafted class. That makes 6. I'm really not sure why guys like Coxson and Pinkard chose to come to Green Bay? I really like Pinkard and Coxson has hype from Qadry Ismail as a T.O. clone. I just don't see how any UDFA is going to unseat Janis.

Has Abby put on any muscle? The guy did, what, 4 or 5 reps on the bench coming into last season? He just has to be stronger than that now.

#11 Larry Pinkard is the WR I'm most rooting for this TC. Abby or Janis has got to go for that to happen.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#12

I wish somebody would ask McCarthy/Clement/Bennett/whoever straight out, why didn't Janis - who appeared to have so much ability, get so little use last season? If he is somehow damaged goods or an attitude problem, I'd like to know about it.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

I thought this had been answered, but assumed you researched it yourself before assuming it hadn't. Lookie lookie, it was asked and McCarthy answered.

"Jarrett Boykin is ahead of Jeff Janis," McCarthy said, indicating the difference was clear-cut both at wide receiver and on special teams.

"Jeff made some big plays. Had a couple good returns. Caught some vertical balls.

"But a lot of this is new for him. He's gotten better, but I still have Jarrett significantly in front of him. Jarrett works his butt off. That's a tough role. He's doing great."

Source wrote:

This was also said by yours truly way back too.
http://www.packershome.com/forum/posts/t22719-Jeffrey-Ronald-Janis-it-is-time

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#13

I thought this had been answered, but assumed you researched it yourself before assuming it hadn't. Lookie lookie, it was asked and McCarthy answered.

This was also said by yours truly way back too.
http://www.packershome.com/forum/posts/t22719-Jeffrey-Ronald-Janis-it-is-time

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Thanks for the link hahahaha. It's hard to believe he - an NFL coach judging talent - could have concluded that Boykin was better - or doing better.

As a wise man said recently, something like winning is all that counts when it comes to coaching, but it sure seems like some fine tuning of both personnel decisions and game day decisions would maximize that winning even more for the Packers. This is more like for the "Coaching" thread, but Janis, to me, along with Jayrone Elliot, is a prime example of the Packers being where they are as much in spite of decision making as because of it.

I will go ahead and make a prediction right now: If Janis is given half a chance this year, he will SHINE as at very least, the Packers 3rd best receiver.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#14

Ya gotta love MM...that guy who was "significantly" ahead of Janis is now playing for the Panthers...wasn't even tendered by us. Janis is still with us.
Mike McCarthy made a lot of flattering statements about Jarrett Boykin "as high on Jarrett as anyone in this building" ...must've meant the reporter and him who was asking the question not actual players at the Packers facility. Coach speak. OR...Janis really, really closed the gap on Jarrett only not enough to actually get on the field.

Janis has a special gear nobody else on our team possessed last season. Boykin ran like a 265lb TE.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

gbguy20
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#15

Ya gotta love MM...that guy who was "significantly" ahead of Janis is now playing for the Panthers...wasn't even tendered by us. Janis is still with us.

Mike McCarthy made a lot of flattering statements about Jarrett Boykin "as high on Jarrett as anyone in this building" ...must've meant the reporter and him who was asking the question not actual players at the Packers facility. Coach speak. OR...Janis really, really closed the gap on Jarrett only not enough to actually get on the field.

Janis has a special gear nobody else on our team possessed last season. Boykin ran like a 265lb TE.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Or maybe the guy who sees him every day knows a bit more than a know-it-all on a forum. Just because Boykin had a shitty season does not mean the guy on the bench behind him was a better or equal player. After a shitty season the guy was let go, the fact that the guy behind him was not makes no difference.

nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

#16

You realize what you just did here, right? 😁

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

No, what?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

I was questioning MM's words on Boykin long before last season even began. I'm not surprised he's gone. The typical fan will live off quotes such as Mike McCarthy gave on Boykin and extrapolate them into the idea Boykin is a great WR. Many did that. There was one guy here who compared him to Alshon Jeffery and another who was just as high on him.

It's very easy now, in hindsight, to type a post like this...but where was it before his crappy season? I was a Boykin realist a long long time ago. I love Janis. His measurables were the rival of Julio Jones. There are few who come into the NFL with the full spectrum of measurables that JJ did. He displayed them at St. Louis. He was at a different level of anyone else on that field. Yup, pre-season vs. guys working at Home Depot now, but he wasn't just better than them, he was considerably better. I don't doubt he needed his time to adjust being from SVST...he's just a unique specimen who it's very hard not to be high on. I'm glad the middling Jarrett Boykin is gone so a potential superstar like Janis has a chance to shine.

Janis is better and was better talent wise just like Desmond Bishop was so much better than AJ Hawk. Do you honestly believe every single decision Mike McCarthy makes is correct because he's an NFL HC and I/we're not? Please. Rolle outplays Goodson by a long shot and gets cut last season. Those things happen.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

sschind
Senior Member

8 years ago

#18

Ya gotta love MM...that guy who was "significantly" ahead of Janis is now playing for the Panthers...wasn't even tendered by us. Janis is still with us.

Mike McCarthy made a lot of flattering statements about Jarrett Boykin "as high on Jarrett as anyone in this building" ...must've meant the reporter and him who was asking the question not actual players at the Packers facility. Coach speak. OR...Janis really, really closed the gap on Jarrett only not enough to actually get on the field.

Janis has a special gear nobody else on our team possessed last season. Boykin ran like a 265lb TE.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

He has also made some pretty flattering comments about Janis as well. All it tells me is that coaches say flattering things about a lot of their young players. I don't put much stock in it as far as indicating any sort of preference.

I honestly don't see this depth at WR so many people are talk about. Right now I say we have two proven stud WR's (Nelson and Cobb.) Adams showed me enough last year that I have high hopes for him. He had a decent rookie campaign but not anything more than I've seen dozens of times around the league only to have the player fizzle. After that we have a bunch of guys that could all make the team or none make the team (although Montgomery would have to be absolute crap to not make it) As far as Janis, Abbredaris, White or any off the other WRs on the roster now it wouldn't surprise me if any of them made it or if any of them got cut. If these guys were on any other team, especially the Bears or the vikings, and their fans were bragging about how deep their WR group was we would be laughing at them and saying "who".

steveishere
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#19

I think this offense is a lot tougher to pick up for a wr than people are giving it credit for. Just look at how long it took cobb and jordy to fully excel in it and those two seem pretty sharp by all accounts. Im not surprised evdn given his measureables that a guy like janis who ran like 2 routes in college didnt pick it up fast enough to earn some snaps. In gb the wrs need to know how to play all over the field, read coverages, and adjust routes accordingly. Im as excited about Janis as anybody but it might take the dude some time until hes ready.

nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Took Driver three years to get up to speed from a small school.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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