Lotta Talent for "Next Year," but it's not over...· Page 2

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

6 years ago

That's where your lying to yourself...

Reality has both roses and shit and everything in between, homers put on their blinders because they don't like reality and want to ignore the shit... you put your blinders on because you also don't like the reality and want to ignore the roses and shit all over everything.

The reality is that their is both yin and yang!

Originally Posted by: beast

I understand the roses. Aaron Rodgers is the rose. Aaron Jones is rose petals along with guys like Clark and Daniels. Not much else on this roster that is something to get excited about. I like Martinez and have from first time I watched him but I was comparing to Hawk. I liked Brice. Still do. Lowry is a decent player. Rest of secondary is very underwhelming. I harped on CB play before season started and still am. WR cupboard is old and stale with overpriced goods. TE is a disaster... OLB is a joke for the money. What is there to get riled up over that's positive.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

No one said you had to get riled up or excited... I'll take just this... because that was a good balanced and unbiased post! Good job! And that's with no roses.

I'm both excited and wondering, about if Clark and Daniels... they're going great against the run, but I'm wondering if they're going to get even better in the passing game... I'm not sold on Lowry yet, at least not from the 4-2 DT position role... also Adams has so much potential, I'm hoping he develops well, but historical DT suck in their rookie years and then he missed the entire training camp, so I haven't expected much from him this year.

As for the CB play, I'm worried about King's shoulder... I really hope that's not a long term problem... he has so much potential, but if he can't stay on the field, then I'm worried. It will be interesting to see if House is back or not for the future.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#13

Hey, I'd be out of my mind if we did what the Saints did drafting what could be the DROY and OROY in Lattimore and Kamara. We were rumored to take Kamara in Round 1. I can only imagine that star in our O and Lattimore being a true shutdown CB for us.

You know I focus on how to improve...this entire org has so many hot spots requiring attention I do find the overall state depressing.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

sschind
Senior Member

6 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: beast

Since you are not going to have superstars at every position I don't see a problem getting excited about a player who is not a superstar. So what if guys like Martinez and Jones, or anyone else for that matter, don't turn out to be studs. A few studs are great to have but you need good solid contributors at other positions as well so if you have several of those positions covered that is a reason to be excited.

The best roses are produced when you mix a little shit in with them. I'm not sure how that applies to football teams but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: sschind

People bitch about Ted all the time, but how many Nick Collinses does the average GM draft? Probly not EVEN one.

Look at the depth on this team. We were 4-1, despite starting 7th string Gs at LT and shit. We've got depth popping up like Aaron Jones, BOOM. Jamaal Williams, BOOM. Who are these guys? They show up and they can play. Freakin McRay was an arena league player last year.

People bagged on Martinez last year. Well guess what, turns out he's pretty good. Kenny Clark too. Lots of guys really coming into their own. Davante Adams. Demarius Randall is a freakin INTERCEPTION machine. (Not to jinx him, of course.)

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#16

I get encouraged when the net result of what we're trotting out is actually SB worthy. D isn't and there isn't near enough even after all the resources allocated to feel hopeful.

It's been proven not to be a resource allocation issue so you have to change who is allocating the resources.

Does anyone really feel we're building a Championship defense? I don't. It's embarrassing how bad this unit is after all the years of focus.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

#17

We've always had talent. That doesn't mean the coaching staff is utilizing it. That doesn't mean they are football smart. Give me 22 starters who are assignment sure and football smart and I'll give you a winner.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Beat me to it. All the talent in the world won't help us if we trot out the same broken schemes again next year.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

You mean like AJ Hawk?😁😁

Took awhile, but I like what I am seeing in Martinez!
He is taking charge of The defense and flying all over the place!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#20

I am going to agree with both PFWT and uffda on the D.

I am with PFWT the Interior DL looks promising. Daniels, Clark and hopefully Adams if he picks things up makes me believe we could potentially have nice pressure coming from the line for the first time in ages. My only problem and I totally agree with uffda is the edge rush and the price tag for that. Clay is done as a superstar player (although we know he will be in more Pro Bowls because it is a popularity contest). We should have either traded him or cut him a while ago if he didn't want to restructure. Perry flashes hot when he is not injured. I do like him as he is way more assignment sure and doesn't often lose contain compared to Clay. Unfortunately for him being great on a contract year is a movie I've seen way too many times in sports.

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