Rockmolder
5 years ago

Williams is your utility guy. He can do it all, specializes in pass pro.

Jones is your lighting guy. He was used in the passing game in college, will be used that way much more in LeFluer's system than in Mike's.

Now we need that guy who can take a step and cut it up the middle. Preferably somebody with speed.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I don't know about Williams as your utility guy. He's slow and plodding, but doesn't have the strength to run over people. Even that shouldn't have to be that big a problem in a zone blocking scheme (Terrell Davis and Arian Foster didn't even crack 4.7 on their 40), since vision and the ability to cut up field and hit the hole are probably the biggest essentials, but he hasn't really impressed all that much in those areas, either.

Utility and versatility are terms I'm beginning to dread in scouting or player reports. Allen Barbre always comes to mind. Very versatile player, could play all 5 positions on the line at a consistent level. Shame that level was always horrible.

Jones I have very high hopes for. If he stays healthy, there's no reason for him to not go over 1.200 yards.

Zero2Cool
5 years ago

I don't know about Williams as your utility guy. He's slow and plodding, but doesn't have the strength to run over people. Even that shouldn't have to be that big a problem in a zone blocking scheme (Terrell Davis and Arian Foster didn't even crack 4.7 on their 40), since vision and the ability to cut up field and hit the hole are probably the biggest essentials, but he hasn't really impressed all that much in those areas, either.

Utility and versatility are terms I'm beginning to dread in scouting or player reports. Allen Barbre always comes to mind. Very versatile player, could play all 5 positions on the line at a consistent level. Shame that level was always horrible.

Jones I have very high hopes for. If he stays healthy, there's no reason for him to not go over 1.200 yards.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Crazy... I thought Jones was much faster than Williams.

Jamal Williams ran 40 in 4.59
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jamaal-williams?id=2558204 

Aaron Jones ran 40 in 4.56
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/aaron-jones?id=2558116 
UserPostedImage
+2
Rockmolder
5 years ago

Crazy... I thought Jones was much faster than Williams.

Jamal Williams ran 40 in 4.59
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jamaal-williams?id=2558204 

Aaron Jones ran 40 in 4.56
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/aaron-jones?id=2558116 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I thought so, as well, at first. It's more in the quickness than top-end speed, though. Jones beats him big time in every measurable that implies burst, quickness etc. Combine site doesn't show the 10 yard split, but it was 1.51 for Adams, while Williams clocked in at 1.60.

Jamaal gets to top speed like a diesel truck. That doesn't really matter all that much if you have great vision like Foster and Davis or you're a real bruiser like Lacy was (when he was actually in shape), but Jamaal has some work to do one the first category and has shown us he doesn't really fit the second category.
+1
nerdmann
5 years ago

I don't know about Williams as your utility guy. He's slow and plodding, but doesn't have the strength to run over people. Even that shouldn't have to be that big a problem in a zone blocking scheme (Terrell Davis and Arian Foster didn't even crack 4.7 on their 40), since vision and the ability to cut up field and hit the hole are probably the biggest essentials, but he hasn't really impressed all that much in those areas, either.

Utility and versatility are terms I'm beginning to dread in scouting or player reports. Allen Barbre always comes to mind. Very versatile player, could play all 5 positions on the line at a consistent level. Shame that level was always horrible.

Jones I have very high hopes for. If he stays healthy, there's no reason for him to not go over 1.200 yards.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



I put William's up there with guys like Ryan Grant. Sees the hole better, not as much of a home run threat.

Dude can absolutely get it done, imo. He's just not on the level of Ahman Green or one of those types of guys.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
+1
gbguy20
5 years ago
He does not see the hole better than Jones.
+1
buckeyepackfan
5 years ago

Kapri Bibbs 5'10" 203 lbs age:26 exp: 4 years

Tra Carson 5'11" 228 lbs age:26 exp: 3 years

Lavon Coleman 5'11" 216 lbs age:24 exp: 1 year

Malcolm Johnson 6'1" 231 lbs age:26 exp: 2 years

Aaron Jones 5'9" 208 lbs age:24 exp: 3 years

Jamaal Williams 6'0" 213 lbs age:23 exp: 3 years

I think Gutey is happy with the stable of rb's.

Both Jones and Williams have showed, when healthy they are a very capable duo.

Bibbs and Carson were brought in by Gutey.
He didn't sign them just to finish out last year.
The guy has a plan.
Thats not saying he won't draft another rb, but I don't think it is high on the list.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Cheesey
5 years ago
I LOVE our combo of Jones and Williams. The big question is, can they remain healthy.
If our WRs can make the jump to make more plays, that will open up the running game a lot more.
UserPostedImage
sschind
5 years ago

Give Jones the chance to be the guy you won't regret it.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I'm fine with doing and you may very well be right (I hope so because I'll be keeping him in my fantasy league) but the injury bug does concern me a bit and if he goes down again I don't want to be stuck with Williams. As Nerd says he is a good utility back but I don't want him to be our #1 for a several game stretch.

sschind
5 years ago

I LOVE our combo of Jones and Williams. The big question is, can they remain healthy.
If our WRs can make the jump to make more plays, that will open up the running game a lot more.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I like the combo of Jones and Williams much more so because of Jones than Williams.

blueleopard
5 years ago
Bibbs is actually a solid back, and I'm wondering if he has anything to offer other than spelling Jones and Williams.
Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (25-May) : Yes.
    beast (24-May) : Does he say what it is?
    Zero2Cool (22-May) : Christian Watson believes he has discovered the root cause his soft-tissue leg injuries
    Zero2Cool (22-May) : Savage played last half of season with tear in rotator cuff
    Zero2Cool (22-May) : SISSIES!!!!
    Mucky Tundra (22-May) : Sounds like both Kraft and Tom were injuried before OTAs began
    buckeyepackfan (22-May) : Not serious but waiting for strength and conditioning coach referwnces.
    buckeyepackfan (22-May) : Tom and Kraft both injured(pectoral muscle),
    Zero2Cool (20-May) : I feel similar about person and product/service.
    beast (17-May) : Not sure why a players views reflect on GB... instead of simply on the player
    Martha Careful (17-May) : I bet some of us have had 6+ mRNA jabs, a UKR flag on our walls, and still think Fauci has a thread of integrity
    Zero2Cool (16-May) : From what I've read, it's all Jets , not us.
    CanPackFan (16-May) : Will there ever be a time when Rodgers' whacko views will not reflect on GB? He is the past, thank god.
    Zero2Cool (16-May) : Jan 4th gonna be rough with that start time lol
    Zero2Cool (16-May) : Packers schedule listed. Boom.
    buckeyepackfan (15-May) : Let the leaks begin. Colts @ Packers week 2, Vikings @ Packers week 4
    Zero2Cool (14-May) : WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Bills
    Zero2Cool (14-May) : Jets and Aaron Rodgers open up on Monday Night Football,
    Zero2Cool (13-May) : $170 guaranteed. This might impact Jordan Love
    Zero2Cool (13-May) : Lions are signing QB Jared Goff to a four-year, $212 million extension
    Zero2Cool (13-May) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.
    Zero2Cool (13-May) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line
    Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
    beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
    Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
    Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
    Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
    beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
    beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
    beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
    beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
    Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
    Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
    buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
    buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
    Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
    Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
    Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
    Vikings
    Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    24-May / Around The NFL / beast

    23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Nonstopdrivel

    20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    12-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    11-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.