gbguy20
4 years ago
I think it's a mix. Our defense would be much better if our offense/qb wasn't dogshit and unable to keep our D off the field. However as it stands, fact is that our offense sucks and it looks like our defense is nothing more than average. If our offense figures shit out, our D will look much improved.
go.pack.go.
4 years ago

I think it's a mix. Our defense would be much better if our offense/qb wasn't dogshit and unable to keep our D off the field. However as it stands, fact is that our offense sucks and it looks like our defense is nothing more than average. If our offense figures shit out, our D will look much improved.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



If you think our QB is dogshit, go back and watch the 2017 season when he was hurt. You will see how good our offense is without that dogshit QB of ours.
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Cheesey
4 years ago
Wow....AR is “dogs#%t????
I’ll be there are at LEAST 25 teams that WISH they had THAT “dogs)@t to step in!

I don’t look forward to the day when Rodgers rides off into the sunset.
Who knows how many decades will go by until we get another “lousy” QB like Rodgers.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

If you think our QB is dogshit, go back and watch the 2017 season when he was hurt. You will see how good our offense is without that dogshit QB of ours.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



I wouldn't say Aaron Rodgers is dogshit, but I can see how some would perceive him to be playing like dogshit. I can't say I'd agree fully with that assessment. But, the problem with saying to look at 2017's offense is that it doesn't seem to be producing much worse than what we are now.
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gbguy20
4 years ago

If you think our QB is dogshit, go back and watch the 2017 season when he was hurt. You will see how good our offense is without that dogshit QB of ours.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



How about we compare how our QB played until 2014 to how he has played since? The comparison makes the current version look like dogshit.
Cheesey
4 years ago
Yes, he was incredible in the past.
Now he’s just way above average.
So to compare, you see why we have been spoiled.
Again, I’m in no hurry to see the guy that will replace him.
Look at how many teams have gone through QB after QB, hoping to get someone decent, only to end up with garbage.
How many QBs have the Bears and Vikings and Lions gone through in the last 30 years?
Spoiled.....that’s what we are.
The young guys here have no idea what it feels like to go through over 20 years of losing, where if we beat the Bears ONCE, we felt like the season was a success. I’m not looking forward to going back to that scenario.
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Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago
In what categories is he "way above average"? I think a lot of fans are stuck in the past when it comes to evaluating Aaron Rodgers. So much of what he used to do that set him apart just isn't that innovative or usual anymore. The NFL has caught up to him and in many ways surpassed him. Right now Rodgers might be a 70th-percentile quarterback, but on his bad days, he's well under a 60th-percentile quarterback, and he's trending down. Unless he's willing to make a conscious business decision to play within the system, adapt to the personnel he has, and most importantly, not take the unnecessary hits, he doesn't stand a chance of playing at a high level as long as Tom Brady has.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
Tossed these messages in its own topic.


Edit, since I created the title of the topic, I will answer it. Yes, he has declined. I mean, he is 36 years old. He's not going to get better. I do believe he can flip on the switch of being better than what he is. I believe this to be true because while we didn't have Davante Adams, he did a lot of what I want to see from him.
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gbguy20
4 years ago
He declined 5 years ago. I don't think it is an age thing or a physical thing. I believe it is a complete mental thing that can be fixed. If a coach would just take a hard line on him and force him to fix it he could. Make him watch 2011 and compare his fundamentals/footwork then vs now. Compare his decision making then vs now. MLF said this off season that he was going to watch Rodgers film in 2011 and Rodgers film of the past couple of years. Nothing has changed so either MLF is not the guy or it's just too early yet, maybe he needs more time to fix Rodgers.
go.pack.go.
4 years ago

He declined 5 years ago. I don't think it is an age thing or a physical thing. I believe it is a complete mental thing that can be fixed. If a coach would just take a hard line on him and force him to fix it he could. Make him watch 2011 and compare his fundamentals/footwork then vs now. Compare his decision making then vs now. MLF said this off season that he was going to watch Rodgers film in 2011 and Rodgers film of the past couple of years. Nothing has changed so either MLF is not the guy or it's just too early yet, maybe he needs more time to fix Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



A big thing that you and many others are missing is that our receivers suck ass. And they have sucked ass for a while now. For whatever reason, management seems to think using late round/undrafted receivers is a great idea.

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