Cheesey
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a year ago
So.... because people are going to murder unborn children anyway, that's a reason to make it legal.
I guess we should make other crimes legal then, as people will commit them anyway.
And yes, there are millions of people that have multiple abortions as birth control.
So, because we have men and women that don't want any consequences for their actions, let's make it legal to kill the "problem".
And as I already stated, if abortion was ONLY in cases of rape or incest, that would end almost all abortions.
Why is it "health care" to kill a baby? What about the rights of the innocent unborn child?


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a year ago

So.... because people are going to murder unborn children anyway, that's a reason to make it legal.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



It's impossible to murder an unborn child. Being unborn, it is not yet a child. Until it is born, it is a fetus, before that an embryo, and before that an egg. Upon fertilization, the egg becomes an embryo. Around the 8th week, the embryo transforms into a fetus. It is not a child until it leaves the womb.

Exactly when an egg, embryo, or fetus is granted personhood status, ie: has rights as a person and could technically be murdered is a hotly debated and contentious matter, so I won't go too far down that rabbit hole.

In any case, the vast majority of abortions happen before the 13th week. Later abortions are rare and pre-overturning Roe vs Wade were often very difficult to get permission for and were/are banned outright in many states.

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https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/fact-sheet/abortions-later-in-pregnancy/ 

And yes, there are millions of people that have multiple abortions as birth control.



You'll have to provide a source for this as I could find nothing that backs up this claim. Abortion stats are a little tricky because there is no centralized resource. In any case, by the highest estimates, fewer than 1 million abortions were performed in 2020. This is down quite a bit from the peak of 1.6m in the 90s, and when accounting for population growth that equates to something like abortion rates halving over that period.

I haven't been able to find any statistics that define what "casual abortions" or "abortions as a contraceptive" are, so again, you'll have to both define those terms and cite your source for the data. To the best of my knowledge, reliable data does not exist that would prove or disprove this one.

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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/24/what-the-data-says-about-abortion-in-the-u-s-2/ft_2022-06-23_abortiondata_01/ 
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Cheesey
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a year ago
So, the thousands of abortions every year are because of rapes and incest?
And calling a human a "fetus" doesn't change what it is, anymore then calling murder "homicide". It's the same thing.
And just because you CHOOSE not to accept that a living baby still in the womb is not a person, doesn't mean it's not a person.
Have you ever seen an abortion?
The film "Seeing is believing" shows what it really is. Seeing a "fetus" in the womb trying to avoid a "doctors" needle because of the pain it is enduring. Seeing the little arms and legs suctioned out and thrown away like garbage .
Calling it a nice little term doesn't change what it really is. Murder
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