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Green Bay Packers ( 10 - 3 )
    Total Offense = 13th
    Passing Offense = 9th
    Rushing Offense = 20th

    Total Defense = 6th
    Passing Defense = 9th
    Rushing Defense = 9th

    Points For = 25.2 (14th)
    Points Against = 20.9 (7th)



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Baltimore Ravens ( 8 - 5 )
    Total Offense = 5th
    Passing Offense = 12th
    Rushing Offense = 3rd

    Total Defense = 18th
    Passing Defense = 31st
    Rushing Defense = 1st

    Points For = 23.4 (16th)
    Points Against = 21.8 (10th)

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2021-12-14T13:21:09Z
It will be interesting to see how Jones and Dillon do facing the #1 rush defense. Especially running behind the beat up OL.
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2021-12-14T13:31:27Z
ESPN's rankings:

Quote:

3. Green Bay Packers (10-3)
Previous ranking: 2

Offense: 2
Defense: 16
Special teams: 30

The offense is dominant, the defense has been serviceable and the special teams are a disaster. Sunday's win over the Bears was a microcosm of the Packers' season and these rankings: Green Bay gave up a 97-yard punt return for a touchdown in the first half and allowed Chicago to recover an onside kick in the fourth quarter, yet the Packers scored 45 points and returned an interception for a score. If the Packers don't get the third part fixed, though, it could ruin their season. -- Rob Demovsky

10. Baltimore Ravens (8-5)
Previous ranking: 6

Offense: 17
Defense: 14
Special teams: 2

The Ravens lead the AFC North with a middle-of-the-pack offense and defense because both sides have carried them at times this season. The lack of consistency is the result of the Ravens losing seven starters to season-ending injuries this season. The defense has been the strongest part of the Ravens over the past month. If Lamar Jackson (ankle) and the offense can get back on track, Baltimore can reach the playoffs for a fourth straight year. -- Jamison Hensley



The bares ST is 6th. So
kickoff team: ball in the endzone. No returns.
punt team: Kick the ball more than 20 yards and put it out of bounds. No returns.
FG team: Block the other guys.
KO team: let the ball go out of bounds when the opportunity is there. Otherwise if the ball is in the EZ, take a knee.
Punt return team: Fair catch. Emphasis on the word "catch".
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Mucky Tundra
2021-12-17T01:15:28Z


Sounds like even if Jackson plays, he'll have limited mobility.
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Mucky Tundra
2021-12-17T01:24:28Z

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beast
2021-12-17T02:24:08Z
Originally Posted by: wpr 

It will be interesting to see how Jones and Dillon do facing the #1 rush defense. Especially running behind the beat up OL.



Also in these types of situations, why are they the #1 running defense? Because their running defense is so good? Or because their passing defense is so bad that teams don't even try to run it?

I remember in the last two weeks the narrative asking the Baltimore head coach why they went for two point conversion to win or lose the game (which they missed and lost) instead of taking the extra point after touchdown.

Head coach said because they had no more healthy CBs... they were thin entering the game and had a couple injured during the game. And didn't want any more injuries and were sure the defense could hold up should they lose the coin toss.

So the passing game might have a huge day... and they'll run less because of it, and maybe be less effective as well.
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beast
2021-12-17T02:25:49Z
Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Sounds like even if Jackson plays, he'll have limited mobility.



It's just the highlights, but watching their last game highlights, the backup almost looks better than Jackson... but that could be very misleading, but he seemed to move the ball better.

Of course the other team probably game planned for Jackson and not the backup, but still.
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beast
2021-12-17T05:56:37Z


According to Matt Schneidman (whom worded this horribly),

Rams WR Van Jefferson score a TD against his father's coached Cardinals on Monday (Van's dad, Shawn, is Arizona's WR coach),

After seeing this, Packers WR coach Jason Vrable texted WR Amari Rodgers, that this is his week to score a TD on his father's team (Amari's father is Ravens WR coach Tee Martin).
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nerdmann
2021-12-17T13:37:47Z
Originally Posted by: beast 



According to Matt Schneidman (whom worded this horribly),

Rams WR Van Jefferson score a TD against his father's coached Cardinals on Monday (Van's dad, Shawn, is Arizona's WR coach),

After seeing this, Packers WR coach Jason Vrable texted WR Amari Rodgers, that this is his week to score a TD on his father's team (Amari's father is Ravens WR coach Tee Martin).


Cobb was getting all Amari's reps, so his development has been stunted. Matt will for sure get him some packages, special routes, get him going with confidence. 👍

Dude could be a weapon. Give him something to do other than return punts. Has Winfree ever fielded punts?

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nerdmann
2021-12-17T13:40:12Z
Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Sounds like even if Jackson plays, he'll have limited mobility.



Cool, because the winning strategy is to contain him, force him to win with his arm. Not to jinx lol
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2021-12-17T16:14:47Z
Originally Posted by: beast 

Also in these types of situations, why are they the #1 running defense? Because their running defense is so good? Or because their passing defense is so bad that teams don't even try to run it?

I remember in the last two weeks the narrative asking the Baltimore head coach why they went for two point conversion to win or lose the game (which they missed and lost) instead of taking the extra point after touchdown.

Head coach said because they had no more healthy CBs... they were thin entering the game and had a couple injured during the game. And didn't want any more injuries and were sure the defense could hold up should they lose the coin toss.

So the passing game might have a huge day... and they'll run less because of it, and maybe be less effective as well.




Good question. I say a little of both. The team's yards per carry defense is excellent. Tied for 3rd with the Rams at 3.9

On the other hand on pass defense they are shockingly high. They give up 7.8 yards per attempt. That's tied with the bares for 29th. Only the Lions (8.2) and Jets (8.3) are worse.
The Packers give up 4.5 rushing defense (25th) and 6.7 (5th) pass defense.

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Mucky Tundra
2021-12-18T16:17:27Z



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yooperfan
2021-12-18T18:06:34Z
I was relieved to learn that Shawn Hochuli and his crew won't be officiating the Packers game.
Although I don't have any stats to back me up, I just don't feel like they are a very good crew.
Brad Allen and his crew will do the Packers game.
I know nothing about this crew, hopefully they will be a better officiating team.
Although this year all the officiating has been rather shoddy.
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2021-12-18T20:10:23Z
Packers 33
Ravens 30
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2021-12-18T20:18:05Z
Originally Posted by: yooperfan 

I was relieved to learn that Shawn Hochuli and his crew won't be officiating the Packers game.
Although I don't have any stats to back me up, I just don't feel like they are a very good crew.
Brad Allen and his crew will do the Packers game.
I know nothing about this crew, hopefully they will be a better officiating team.
Although this year all the officiating has been rather shoddy.



Allen's crew 4th fewest penalties called and yards assessed. Tied 5th holding and yards. 6th PI. 7th in yards. Worsted in unsportsman 31 in yards.

rotowire 

Edit- this is only 17 crews not 32.
Hochuli 16, 12 and 11 respectively. I skip rough passer for both and unsportsmanlike on Hochuli.

Double edit. There are 16 games max a week. 17 crews is correct.
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yooperfan
2021-12-19T10:24:32Z
Thanks for the officiating stats WPR!
Very interesting.
Mucky Tundra
2021-12-19T15:54:42Z
Bad news for the Ravens who are already down a couple of players in the secondary

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nerdmann
2021-12-20T00:36:57Z
Almost exactly as I expected it to be. Winning ugly, but we got a slew of our best players out.

We'll get better for the playoffs, hopefully.
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TheKanataThrilla
2021-12-20T00:59:35Z
Thought we would play better. They went for 2 for the win. Ravens trusting analytics for the loss.
dyeah_gb
2021-12-20T02:18:30Z
Happy with the win but the Packers poor execution at the end of the game is very worrying for a team that has not gotten past the NFC Championship game in over a decade. That three and out at the end of the game was inexcusable. Then on defense, they still had no answer for covering the Ravens TE. Good news is that there are still a few key players the Packers are expecting to get back in time for the playoffs.
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2021-12-20T02:33:04Z
Originally Posted by: wpr 

Packers 33
Ravens 30



I was close. It shouldn't have been. Running QBs are their Kryptonite.
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