Zero2Cool
a year ago

Gute suggested he thought Crosby's leg would be stronger this year as he wouldn't be coming off surgery like last week.

Originally Posted by: beast 


You got me with this one. I had to read it three times before realizing "week" was probably meant to be "year".  It took me a bit because I saw on Tweeter some folks thinking Crosby had surgery recently, but it was last June/July when he had surgery. So, 2023 season should have a stronger leg for Crosby.
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go.pack.go.
a year ago
I just don’t understand how Crosby is expected to have a stronger leg, when it was just as weak in week 17 as it was in week 1. Didn’t seem to improve throughout the season, so what’s an off-season going to do for an old man?
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a year ago

You got me with this one. I had to read it three times before realizing "week" was probably meant to be "year".  It took me a bit because I saw on Tweeter some folks thinking Crosby had surgery recently, but it was last June/July when he had surgery. So, 2023 season should have a stronger leg for Crosby.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Sorry, but yes you figured it out correctly. Gute was suggesting his leg would be stronger this year after no surgery, when it was weaker last year coming off surgery.

I just don’t understand how Crosby is expected to have a stronger leg, when it was just as weak in week 17 as it was in week 1. Didn’t seem to improve throughout the season, so what’s an off-season going to do for an old man?

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 

I was thinking the same thing, but the season potential could keep you wore down especially when Crosby is also dealing with a recurring back injury.

I'm not saying Gute is correct, because I question it like you, but in theory an offseason could let a guy stop, fully recover and then work on strength (leg and back), when he never got the chance to do either during the season.

Also, I wanted to move on from Crosby, but looking kickers in FA and the draft, I don't see great options. The PS Kicker looked the most interesting, but one game he was actived he got injured during warmups, so can you trust him? Also, he (self admittedly) isn't the smartest.

I don't think we're going to find the long term future answer at kicker this offseason. 
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I just don’t understand how Crosby is expected to have a stronger leg, when it was just as weak in week 17 as it was in week 1. Didn’t seem to improve throughout the season, so what’s an off-season going to do for an old man?

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Players often complain about Thursday games because their bodies do not get enough time to recover. As I am sure you know, the older we get, the more time our body needs to recover. Mason Crosby is no spring chicken (wtf does that saying even mean?) anymore so it's probably safe to assume his leg was getting stronger as the season went on, however, the progress was stunted by the duration of the season. He'll have a full off-season to rehab and build the leg strength up rather than just recover from surgery. 

Aside from Punting and Kicking being different in their respect, it's also why teams need one of each. If you used just one for both, they'd have dead leg by Week 12-14.
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buckeyepackfan
a year ago
Would like to see these four Vets get resigned, but not going to be shocked if they're not.

1. Adrian Amos, S
2. Mason Crosby, K
3. Robert Tonyan, TE
4. Dean Lowry, DL

I think these 5 will be back.
ST guys who all filled in at times at their positions.

1. Dallin Leavitt, S
2.Rudy Ford, S
3.Eric Wilson, LB
4.Corey Ballentine, CB
5.Justin Hollins, EDGE.

I figured Gute will sit out the 1st wave of "crazy money" FA.

The unknown with AR, is preventing any huge move.
Even when it gets resolved , The Packers need to start getting their Salary Cap numbers inline.
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go.pack.go.
a year ago

Would like to see these four Vets get resigned, but not going to be shocked if they're not.

1. Adrian Amos, S
2. Mason Crosby, K
3. Robert Tonyan, TE
4. Dean Lowry, DL

I think these 5 will be back.
ST guys who all filled in at times at their positions.

1. Dallin Leavitt, S
2.Rudy Ford, S
3.Eric Wilson, LB
4.Corey Ballentine, CB
5.Justin Hollins, EDGE.

I figured Gute will sit out the 1st wave of "crazy money" FA.

The unknown with AR, is preventing any huge move.
Even when it gets resolved , The Packers need to start getting their Salary Cap numbers inline.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I agree with everybody you just said except for Lowry. If he’s on the field for any length of time, we have problems.
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a year ago

I agree with everybody you just said except for Lowry. If he’s on the field for any length of time, we have problems.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



I'm with you, not sure why you'd want Lowry back unless it's extremely cheap like less than half of his last contract.

I wanted DT Reed back.

Usually I'm a huge DT Clark supporter and argue he's among the most underrated in the NFL, but last year, last year he was average, that concerns me. So I hope they get another DL with potential, just in case.


Also, yes please to S Ford back, he played well at times at Safety as well.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Would like to see these four Vets get resigned, but not going to be shocked if they're not.

1. Adrian Amos, S
2. Mason Crosby, K
3. Robert Tonyan, TE
4. Dean Lowry, DL

I think these 5 will be back.
ST guys who all filled in at times at their positions.

1. Dallin Leavitt, S
2.Rudy Ford, S
3.Eric Wilson, LB
4.Corey Ballentine, CB
5.Justin Hollins, EDGE.

I figured Gute will sit out the 1st wave of "crazy money" FA.

The unknown with AR, is preventing any huge move.
Even when it gets resolved , The Packers need to start getting their Salary Cap numbers inline.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I'll spare everyone the "at a fair price" comment here. 

I'd retain Amos and Crosby but challenge the shit out of them in training camp. I suppose I can't really say they should re-sign Ford and Ballentine eh? I would like to see Leavitt and Wilson back though. Solely because if they make the roster, I think it makes Special Teams gooder.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
Packers are re-signing LB Justin Hollins to a 1-year, $1.2M deal
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