Did The Absence of Ryan Grant Hold The 2010 Offense Back?· Page 5

beast
Select Member

12 years ago

My appologies, it was more directed more generally. I probably should have put that in a separate post.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Alright because I mainly just said I think the average of yards of carries (with the right amount of minimum # of carries) probably needs to be factor in as well with the production numbers if trying to figure out who's the best back, because some teams use more of a rotation of RBs.

And with the minimum of 200 carries Grant was tied for #10. With a minimum of 145 he was tied for #15.

My wild guess would be Grant would be some where between top 8 and 12 best. But like I've said because I think Grant can be two different guys depending on weather he has a chip on his shoulder or not, and I think he's talked about it some with wanting to bring in Ahman Green to push him the year we brought him in.

And Grant should have a chip on his shoulder this year, coming back from an injury, going into a contract year, having Starks taking his role, which he made an impact with it, they drafted Green and some fans are talking about not resigning him. I'm not sure but that could be the biggest chip he's had since he's break out as starter with the Packers. Hopefully he runs with it and does great.

porky88
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#42

Grant did have 73 catches in 2.5 years.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Grant is not an every down RB. He caught 18 passes in 08 and 25 in 09. He managed 25 receptions in the final 10 games of 07, which is when he became the No. 1 RB. That is an average of 2.5 receptions per game and he averaged 4.8 yards per catch, which is below average. Jackson caught 51 in 09. That is more than twice as much as Grant that year. He averaged over six yards per catch, which is actually a down year for him. Last year, he caught 46 for an average of over eight per catch.

Grant is a very solid two-down RB. There is nothing wrong with that. However, he is not versatile whereas Jackson is.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#43

Grant is solid between the tackles. He leaves a lot of yards of the field, but he gets the job done. But they're never gonna run a ton of screens to him. Now Alex Green on the other hand...

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zombieslayer
Registered

12 years ago

#44

That is why it is hard for a team to be a super bowl contender with a top running back. They tend to take away from the Passing game which has been shown to actually improve your odds of winning the better it is ranked. Unlike the running game.

The most important stats to have are passer rating differential and turnover differential. If you are higher ranked in those categories, you are much more likely to win. As close as it gets to a guarantee in the NFL. Rush Yardage differential can be negative and you still have close to the same odds to win.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Ah. Well said.

This is what I said awhile back - that elite RBs actually hurt your team because they demand the ball more and take attempts from the passing game. The NFL has become a passing league, like it or not.

Look at your elite QBs and look at your elite RBs. Elite RBs are on teams ranging from very good to very bad whereas elite QBs are more often than not in the Playoffs.

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nerdmann
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12 years ago

#45

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

How about a couple young RBs who can run screens effectively?

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zombieslayer
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12 years ago

#46

How about a couple young RBs who can run screens effectively?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Sure. And of course block.

Money is limited. I'd rather not pay too much for the RB position.

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