Grabacr
14 years ago
Well ill keep this post in mind when Sunday rolls around again. And see how the scripting goes. But its just really if the Rams play half as good as the Bengals and the Packers play as good as they did Sunday then im just worried!

But my thinking is........Now the defense has made some improvements....(granted its not 100% but with Capers its much better) That the the offense is getting alot more attention especially with all the Turnovers the defense is making. Some of my stats

FIRST DOWNS (Rushing-passing-by penalty) Pack = 9 - 21 - 4 Opps = 11 - 22 - 4
3DC: Packers = 10/27 and Opponents = 13/29

I want to see the improvement in the 3DC. But lets see what Sunday brings before we start calling for Mikes Head....could still end the season 16-1?
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shield4life
14 years ago
We need to run the ball more !!!
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

we kept Wynn because he can pick up the blitz

"djcubez" wrote:



Now that we have two weeks of sub-par offensive line play under our belts, I think this fact speaks volumes. We elected to can a guy who did nothing but gain yards for a guy who shows flashes on third downs but can't stay healthy and a guy who is good at picking up the blitz.

If that was their main reason for keeping Wynn -- and by all indications, it was -- sounds to me like our coaching staff had serious concerns about the offensive line before the season even started.

Through two weeks, Wynn has 3 rushing attempts for 8 yard (2.7 avg) and 1 reception for 8 yards. You're telling me that Sutton couldn't have done better?

It's not like our offense is picking up the blitz anyway.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

we kept Wynn because he can pick up the blitz

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Now that we have two weeks of sub-par offensive line play under our belts, I think this fact speaks volumes. We elected to can a guy who did nothing but gain yards for a guy who shows flashes on third downs but can't stay healthy and a guy who is good at picking up the blitz.

If that was their main reason for keeping Wynn -- and by all indications, it was -- sounds to me like our coaching staff had serious concerns about the offensive line before the season even started.

Through two weeks, Wynn has 3 rushing attempts for 8 yard (2.7 avg) and 1 reception for 8 yards. You're telling me that Sutton couldn't have done better?

It's not like our offense is picking up the blitz anyway.

"djcubez" wrote:



Weirdest part might be that, on most passing downs, we still have Grant. Saw him slide over next to the RT quite a few times last week. Didn't see a whole lot of Wynn.

I just hope that Jackson has been working on his blocking skills, because I'm pretty sure that we'll be seeing him a lot on 3rd down again. Maybe put Lee in there more. All things that shouldn't be necessary for a normal passing play, btw.

As for this thread, I like it. I wonder as to how much he sticks to his scripting on these first plays as, like said, we keep putting ourselfs in horrible down and distances. Even if it's more execution than anything else, though, it's still up to him to crack that whip and have them stop making these rookie and boneheaded mistakes.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I've read that part of the rationale for scripting plays is to introduce some unpredictability into the offense; e.g., if you end up in a second-and-long situation, the "predictable" call would be to pass, but if your scripted play is a run, you might catch the defense off guard and gain some extra yardage. While I do understand this idea in theory, and I'm sure it can work now and then, it seems to be substituting the element of luck or randomness for solid statistical play of the odds. Sure, you might catch the defense totally off guard (but these are professionals, so I doubt it's going to happen very often), but statistically, you're much more likely to gain needed yardage from a pass play. I'd like to see a statistical analysis of how often these scripted "unexpected" plays actually place the team in a manageable third down situation versus how many just end up in a third and long.
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TheEngineer
14 years ago

I've read that part of the rationale for scripting plays is to introduce some unpredictability into the offense; e.g., if you end up in a second-and-long situation, the "predictable" call would be to pass, but if your scripted play is a run, you might catch the defense off guard and gain some extra yardage. While I do understand this idea in theory, and I'm sure it can work now and then, it seems to be substituting the element of luck or randomness for solid statistical play of the odds. Sure, you might catch the defense totally off guard (but these are professionals, so I doubt it's going to happen very often), but statistically, you're much more likely to gain needed yardage from a pass play. I'd like to see a statistical analysis of how often these scripted "unexpected" plays actually place the team in a manageable third down situation versus how many just end up in a third and long.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Sounds like a good idea, and something pretty easy to do.
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago

we kept Wynn because he can pick up the blitz

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Now that we have two weeks of sub-par offensive line play under our belts, I think this fact speaks volumes. We elected to can a guy who did nothing but gain yards for a guy who shows flashes on third downs but can't stay healthy and a guy who is good at picking up the blitz.

If that was their main reason for keeping Wynn -- and by all indications, it was -- sounds to me like our coaching staff had serious concerns about the offensive line before the season even started.

Through two weeks, Wynn has 3 rushing attempts for 8 yard (2.7 avg) and 1 reception for 8 yards. You're telling me that Sutton couldn't have done better?

It's not like our offense is picking up the blitz anyway.

"djcubez" wrote:



Wynn was kept for blocking and short yardage. Sutton was never in competition with Wynn. Sutton was competing with Jackson.

I was really surprised that Sutton wasn't kept around after Jacksons injury, and when he was let go, I figured Jackson wasn't hurt that bad. Now we have two weeks down and Jackson hasn't touched the field. and no Idea when he will return.

I think we should have kept another back on the roster, maybe Sutton, but another one for sure.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

Sutton was competing with Jackson.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Thanks for this clarification.

I was lobbying for Jackson to be cut most of the offseason, so naturally I was disappointed that they kept him. McCarthy's availability mantra from last season seems to ring hollow.
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TheEngineer
14 years ago
First post updated. Running at the start of the game continues to be a problem.
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jbshell04
14 years ago
Here is the problem I have with this break down. While using a pass run breakdown is convient as far as making a statement in regards to predictability. Is it not always pass or run? True question should be what where the formations. Was it a pass run option? That is how you determine tendancies.
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