Zero2Cool
15 years ago

There is no doubt this team would be better behind center and with that all the blame goes on Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy

"dhazer" wrote:

Ignorant comments like this make me just want to suspend people. But, its a free country...

I must ask, do you realize you just called Brett Favre a liar? He himself admitted fault for the situation equally as well as the Packers.


All parties involved handled this poorly. Why is that so hard to accept? The Packers admit they could have handled it better and Brett echoed the same comments regarding himself.

Seriously, just how often does a player of Favre credence retire and then a month or two before the season starts claim he wants back in? Not to mention when the apparent QB understudy has been given the keys.


This was uncharted territory and all parties bombed on it.
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Pack93z
15 years ago

The Most Powerful Point in this whole Brett Vs. Greeen Bay Packer legacy issue.

Dingus Wrote:

"I also refuse to believe that Holmgren and Wolf wanted or needed Brett's input on personnel or any other management decisions."


Dingus... You are my new hero. A hell of an observation young man.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Direct imput.. probably not.. but seems to me you are forgetting the afternoon lunches Brett, Mike and Ron once upon time. Weekly.. they most definately didn't need his help, but they certainly made sure he was in tune.
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CDNRodgersfan
15 years ago
Truth is it was a no win situation.If they gave in to Favre we would all be having the exact same debate just the other way around. The way I see it the Packers won, the Jets won, and heck maybe the Dolphins are the biggest winners
dhazer
15 years ago

There is no doubt this team would be better behind center and with that all the blame goes on Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Ignorant comments like this make me just want to suspend people. But, its a free country...

I must ask, do you realize you just called Brett Favre a liar? He himself admitted fault for the situation equally as well as the Packers.


All parties involved handled this poorly. Why is that so hard to accept? The Packers admit they could have handled it better and Brett echoed the same comments regarding himself.

Seriously, just how often does a player of Favre credence retire and then a month or two before the season starts claim he wants back in? Not to mention when the apparent QB understudy has been given the keys.


This was uncharted territory and all parties bombed on it.

"dhazer" wrote:




Um it happened before in green bay and was handled in 2 different ways. Forrest Gregg retired i believe it was 6 straight years and changed his mind and vince allowed him back no problem.

We also had Reggie that retired and a year later wanted to come back but wanted to go to another team so what did we do oh ya gave him his release out of respect for what he helped the team do.

So as far as uncharted waters i guess your right zero because Ted Thompson did neither one but try to bribe brett to stay retired, then refused brett pick what team he wanted to play for.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Um it happened before in green bay and was handled in 2 different ways. Forrest Gregg retired i believe it was 6 straight years and changed his mind and vince allowed him back no problem.

We also had Reggie that retired and a year later wanted to come back but wanted to go to another team so what did we do oh ya gave him his release out of respect for what he helped the team do.

So as far as uncharted waters i guess your right zero because Ted Thompson did neither one but try to bribe brett to stay retired, then refused brett pick what team he wanted to play for.

"dhazer" wrote:



Seriously. Forest Gregg = Brett Favre? What planet are you from? Seriously. SERIOUSLY! Forest Gregg?

Reggie White retired for something like 16 months then ASKED for his release of his contract. There was some flack about it, but it was handled appropriately. The fact that he had sat for a WHOLE year in retirement changes everything.
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dhazer
15 years ago

Um it happened before in green bay and was handled in 2 different ways. Forrest Gregg retired i believe it was 6 straight years and changed his mind and vince allowed him back no problem.

We also had Reggie that retired and a year later wanted to come back but wanted to go to another team so what did we do oh ya gave him his release out of respect for what he helped the team do.

So as far as uncharted waters i guess your right zero because Ted Thompson did neither one but try to bribe brett to stay retired, then refused brett pick what team he wanted to play for.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Seriously. Forest Gregg = Brett Favre? What planet are you from? Seriously. SERIOUSLY! Forest Gregg?

Reggie White retired for something like 16 months then ASKED for his release of his contract. There was some flack about it, but it was handled appropriately. The fact that he had sat for a WHOLE year in retirement changes everything.

"dhazer" wrote:




Your right Zero i just did a little research and came up with this

Despite his small size (6-4, 249 pounds) for an offensive lineman, Gregg was a key player on the Packers dynasty that won five NFL championships and 2 Super Bowls in the 1960s. Gregg earned an "iron-man" tag by playing in a then-league record 188 consecutive games from 1956 until 1971. He also won All-NFL acclaim eight straight years from 1960 through 1967 and was selected to play in nine Pro Bowls.

Gregg closed his career with the Dallas Cowboys, as did his Packer teammate, cornerback Herb Adderley. They both helped the Cowboys win Super Bowl VI, making them the only players (along with former teammate Fred Thurston, who was on the Baltimore Colts world championship team in 1958) in pro football history to play on six teams that won World Championships.

Vince Lombardi, the famed head coach of the Packers in the 1960s, claimed "Forrest Gregg is the finest player I ever coached!" in his book Run to Daylight. In 1999, he was ranked number 28 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players, ranking him second behind Ray Nitschke among players coached by Lombardi, second behind Anthony Munoz (who he coached) among offensive tackles, and third behind Munoz and John Hannah among all offensive linemen.


I guess Brett needs to win a few more championships so sorry Gregg had a better career
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
OH, wow. You're right.

Wait, now that's ME stooping to YOUR condescending level.

You know you're WRONG.

The situation was unique, it was handled shitty by all parties. GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND MOVE ON!
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