dfosterf
13 years ago
Brett can come back and get his one day contract, ring of whatever, etc. when Ted retires, and let him (Favre) know that.

If he wants to suck up in the meantime, feel free.

Ed Werder (dateline Kiln, 2021)

"Again this week Brett announced that the current Green Bay Packer roster is the greatest one he has ever seen."

"This is his 62nd pronouncement of these sentiments since his last retirement in 2011."

Hopefully Ted will waffle for several years on his decision to retire.

That would be kind of fun. I'm not married to this sentiment regarding the Vikes QB, I just want him to fade away. The lasting "resentment" for me will always be how he played a gullible fanbase and media to spin things in favor of his "camp", at the extreme expense to the GBP FO, specifically Ted and MM.

...And the Favrolites that fell for it-

I didn't give much of a damn that he wound up in Minn. That was his right as an athlete. It's the crap he pulled enroute that pisses me off to this day.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

If I were Brett Favre, I would have kept playing too. The Packers moved on because they knew what they had in Aaron Rodgers. They were right. Common sense says to go with the younger player. Favre had a nice year in 2009 and proved he still had it. This year, things did not go his way. I hope Packer fans can get over him playing for the Vikings because Favre is a Packer. You cannot write Packer history without him and you cannot write pro football history without the Packers.

"porky88" wrote:



I like how you don't mention that BRETT RETIRED, which led the Packers to moving on. Why is that FACT so hard to understand in this whole thing?

/unmount (soapbox)


I don't and didn't blame Favre for continuing to play, or even wanting to play, or hell even joining the Vikings. What other team was a GOOD QB away from being a LEGIT contender? 1, the Vikings, no other team was that close. What tarnished my opinion of Brett as a man, was his comments and his going back an forth and the lying. As a player, I always enjoyed him, always will too.


I know some Packers fans will cringe at this, but I truly hope that Brett signs a one day contract with the Packers to retire as a Packer. It means nothing, holds no significance. I just think it would be a nice "first step" to mend the fence between both Favre and the Packers. I don't see it happening, not this year or next.

Peppers says Brett told him to 'beat the Packers in two weeks'. Here we have a direct quote from Brett saying he hopes they win it all. Personally, the latter means more to me than what a Bears player said. Am I bias? Probably, Brett has pissed me off with some of the things he's said over the last few years, but when the water settles, he's still #2 on my favorite players list. And I know that means a lot to him.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Favre launches his Green Bay image rehab effort 

Given that Brett Favre had twice before filed retirement papers with the NFL (and then came back), we didnt give much credence to the notion that hes not returning in 2011 simply because he filed his retirement papers again.

Far more indicative of his intentions was his Monday bouquet to the Packers and their fans. Favre told ESPNs Ed Werder, who may have to start selling insurance or something now that the centerpiece of his career is finally leaving the game, via e-mail that the Packers are by far the best team left in the tournament.

And Favre would know how to rank the remaining teams his Vikings lost five of their 10 games this year to three of them.

But regardless of whether Favre believes it, the fact that he said it (and that he cleared Werder to use it) means that Favre likely will now focus on getting back in the good graces of the folks in Green Bay whom he angered by seeking an opportunity to stick it to the Packers after he retired from the Packers and the coaching staff and front office barricaded the door.

Wishy washy as he may be, Favre rarely does something without a reason at the time for doing it. And we think he wants to commence the process of cozying up once again to the franchise with which he spent the vast majority of his career.

"Mike 'weakass' Florio" wrote:


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dhpackr
13 years ago
Thx Brett, c-ya next year when they retire your number and mount it in the Ring of Honor in Lambeau.
So if you meet me Have some courtesy, Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse, Or I'll lay your soul to waste
RedSoxExcel
13 years ago

Black list the 4.

No ring of honor, no Packers HOF and no retirement. Just don't let it be issued due to the dishonor he brought on himself.

Until he says he is sorry for ratting the team out an accepts full responsibility. I say he has to actually be remorseful and contrite before he gets forgiven.

But I am not bitter. Forgivness is not out of the question.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



Come on, no ring of honor and your not bitter? I assume your joking about the no ring of honor, no Packers HOF, etc.
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RedSoxExcel
13 years ago
Overall, if you think he's a piece of crap and a horrible person and therefore don't like him and don't want to associate with him, go for it. Or you feel betrayed because of his actions off the field or whatever.

But the only thing I don't like is when people try to downgrade what he did for the Packers because of that dislike. I'm not saying any one on here is doing that, I didn't read all the comments. But I've heard and seen stuff that just blows my mind. There was a comment on Yahoo from a "Packer" fan that said "Favre, go away, you sucked, now Aaron is going to do what you never did - win a SB". I know, an extreme example but you can never take away from the fact that we had ONE losing season when he was here. May be he was always surrounded by great teams, may be not. Either way, hate him as a person but don't let that hate go to what he did for the organization.

Btw, only Favre, a guy who hasn't played for the Packers in 3 years can rile up fans this much with an e-mail, haha. I'll miss Favre's drama as it creates something to talk about, lol.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Kevin and Foster together pretty accurately represent my own views on this matter.
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RedSoxExcel
13 years ago

What was the title of the thread, smart guy?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



The fact that the thread title mentions Favre doesn't make the following statement any less hyperbolic.

The guy that took the Packers out of the dark years of the 70's and 80's.

"yooperfan" wrote:



Is it really a coincidence that the Packers didn't win a Super Bowl until after, for example, Reggie White came to town (or that they never won another one after he left)? Favre was certainly an important cog in the renaissance of the Packers, but he wasn't singlehandedly responsible for taking the Packers out of the dark ages.

"yooperfan" wrote:



But you can't deny that Favre was the biggest piece to the puzzle in bringing the Packers back to relevence (I'm pretty sure Reggie White at some point said Favre was one of the reasons he wanted to sign with the Packers). In terms of players, at least.

The guy won three MVPs in a row, meaning he was the best or one of the best players in the league when the Packers got to the SB twice. While Yooper's statement is technically I guess not right because one guy can't win games in football, I don't think the thought is that far off.

If people are going to blame him as the biggest reason why the Packers lost to the Eagles or the Giants in the playoffs, then you should also give him his credit for the success too. Can't have it both ways.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Your post makes no sense. I already said he was an important cog, and you respond with "But you can't deny . . ."? Fine, he was an important piece of the puzzle, if that's the analogy you prefer.

I don't put much stock in MVPs. They're awarded by sportwriters, most of whom are nothing more than bandwagon jumpers who hop on the trendy pick and only twice in the history of the award have they given it to anyone but a running back or quarterback. As Vic Carucci so aptly wrote yesterday: "You have to wonder how that league MVP voting would go if the ballots were turned in today rather than on Jan. 7."

I prefer to look at the results on the field. Favre had a three-year stretch in which he was one of the best quarterbacks ever (and had a fantastic defense, to boot). After that he was, for the most part, above average but not exceptional. There were years interspersed in which he was downright dreadful.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I'm down for this stuff during the off season, we're in the NFC Championship game for the love of god, talk about THAT.

I'll unlock this after the Super Bowl.
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