Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Bob McGinn  says the difference in preseason performance is reason enough we should be cautious assuming the Packers passing game will be great again in 2012 as it was in 2011.

Aaron Rodgers

			2011	2012
Comp		37		21
Att			47		43
Comp%		78.7%	48.8%
Yards		395		234
TD			4		1
INT			0		2
Sacked		6		1
Rush Yards	18		76
Rush TD		0		2
Lost Fum	0		1



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play2win
11 years ago
I read the McGinn column and I don't believe it. Rodgers is going to light up the rest of the NFL. Adding Benson to the mix, he could eclipse those 2011 numbers. The dude won the MVP, not in a surprise year, but rather one immediately following a SB victory. Last season, every opponent's SB was their game against GB, and Rodgers torched them, with the exception of two dismal team failures v. KC and NYG. This year will be even better.
Cheesey
11 years ago
I think what will matter the most is IF the Packers can finally establish a REAL running game.
That could open up the passing game even more!
Plus, if our defense can actually STOP a team, it may slow down our own offense. They won't have to feel they have to score every time they touch the ball.
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play2win
11 years ago
You bring up a good point Cheesey. With an improved defense, our O should have even more opportunities. I do think Aaron's numbers improve over 2011. We all knew his preseason game participation was virtually meaningless. So did the rest of the O. McGinn's comments are mostly based on that, his preseason, which is tough for me to buy into.
DarkaneRules
11 years ago
I don't really care. I just want our team to play well overall.
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Pack93z
11 years ago
Ahhh... McGinn basing production off the preseason. Love it.

Anyway, at a very high level.. personally I hope the numbers are not a repeat or even better. I strive for more balance so that only dictates that X number of snaps should be distributed differently. I hope we control the clock more, protecting the defense as much as possible with the amount of youngster taking snaps, thus cutting down the number of snaps the offense has over the course of the season.

I want the same effectiveness, just a more balanced approach to the game so that we can roll through the playoffs and give our team the maximum chance of winning it all.
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zombieslayer
11 years ago

I don't really care. I just want our team to play well overall.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



This.

I'd rather us have a SB win with Rodgers having an average (for him) season.

More importantly than Rodgers' raw numbers right now are our sack totals.

2011 - 31 sacks. 1 and done in the Playoffs. Opposing QBs threw for 29 TDs and had a 80.6 rating

2010 - 47 sacks. SB win. Opposing QBs threw for 16 TDs and had a 67.2 rating

Simply put, put the opposing QB on his butt and you get in his head.

Rodgers will be good. That's a guarantee. He'll throw more than twice as many TDs as INTs because that's what Rodgers has always done and we got pretty much the same O team as last year, except with possibly an even better OL.

The play of the D is much more important to the team's success right now.
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play2win
11 years ago

Ahhh... McGinn basing production off the preseason. Love it.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I read the article this morning, and that was how he presented his case:

"Three months shy of his 29th birthday, Rodgers should be at the peak of his physical and mental powers. For three years he has been shredding defenses with his arm, his feet and his brain.

For whatever reason, Rodgers hasn't been quite on top of his game, both in training camp and in five quarters of exhibition football.

The No. 1 offense didn't often sweep down the field in majestic fashion to beat the defense in end-of-game scenarios. Nelson was a spectacular sight to behold over the last six weeks, but Rodgers probably didn't complete as many phenomenal passes and his receivers didn't make as many phenomenal catches as they have in summers past."



and:

"In 1998, the Packers had another coach in his seventh season with a team that also was the popular choice for the third straight year to win the Super Bowl.

Well, Mike Holmgren's team turned it over 14 times in five exhibition games that year before posting by far the worst turnover differential of his career (minus-11) in the regular season. The wild-card playoff loss in San Francisco that included four giveaways ended his career in Green Bay."



I didn't just make that up...
Pack93z
11 years ago
With the typo in the title.. I keep thinking Aaron Harang.

I going back to re-watch all the preseason so I can transpose the stats for the season.. later. [grin1]

Think of the time I will save in not having to watch the season.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

With the typo in the title.. I keep thinking Aaron Harang.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




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