Pack93z
11 years ago
Last nights game was pretty clean, one missed defensive holding near the goal line was the major miss of the night. But really, don't the normal refs miss the same types of calls last night.

Another gaff was they botched the descriptor on a false start by calling it offsides.

Watching the game, I think they let the secondary play a little bit more aggressive than normal, but that even with the normal crews vary from crew to crew.

Overall.. they really had no impact on the game. In fact, the shot on Eli was probably a subjective call in which they sided on player safety by enforcing the roughing. Up yours De.

They are not going to be perfect.. but then again neither are the normal crews. But because the attention is focused on them, we are highlighting everything. Pop in a game from last season and focus on the officiating.. your going to see missed calls throughout the game. The focus just wasn't as intense on it.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Say what?  what.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
UserPostedImage
Pack93z
11 years ago
Ahh.. examples.. you want examples. Okay.

How about this non call?

UserPostedImage

or these..

10. Tuck Rule: Right Call, Wrong Explanation You know what happened here. The Raiders were up late in snowy Foxboro in the AFC Divisional playoffs as the Patriots were driving. Tom Brady wound up to throw, but as Charles Woodson sprinted in from the edge and hit Brady’s arm, the quarterback returned the ball to his body. The ball was jarred loose, and Oakland pounced on the pigskin, sending the Silver and Black into pandemonium.

But referee Walt Coleman says not so fast. "After reviewing the play, the quarterback’s arm was moving forward, and the result of the play was an incomplete forward pass." Patriots ball. Patriots win. Patriots go on to become Super Bowl champions. The rulebook has it right -- if the quarterback brings his arm forward in a passing motion, but then changes his mind and tries to keep hold of the football rather than making a pass, it is still considered a forward pass -- but Coleman had it wrong. The contest now forever known as The Tuck Rule Game still has fans scratching their heads to this day.

9. Thanksgiving Day Coin Flop While "heads" and "tails" sound different to most of us, referee Phil Luckett had trouble telling the difference. The Detroit Lions and Pittsburgh Steelers met at midfield for an overtime coin flip on Thanksgiving Day in 1999, and with hundreds of thousands of turkey-stuffed football fans watching, Luckett flubbed the coin flip. Jerome Bettis called "tails," but the ref heard "heads." When the coin came up tails, he awarded the Lions the ball, despite angry protests from the Pittsburgh captains and bench. The Lions took the wrongful opening possession down the field for a score to win the game. Now if the NFL had the college playoff system, this wouldn’t even be an issue -- but that's an argument for another story.

6. Ed Hochuli Gives Jay Cutler a Mulligan The Denver Broncos won a thrilling, 39-38 victory over San Diego with a heaping pile of thanks to Ed Hochuli on Sept. 14, 2008. With the Broncos on the goal line late in the game, Jay Cutler rolled out to his right and aimed to fire a pass on the run -- except the ball slipped out of his hand as his arm rocketed forward, sending the ball puttering sideways, which the Chargers jumped on. Hochuli immediately ruled the pass incomplete, which just two years ago, was not a reviewable call. The NFL has since written in the Hochuli Rule, allowing incomplete passes to be reviewed to see if they are, in fact, fumbles. Cutler and the Broncos took advantage of Hochuli’s misstep, winning the game on a touchdown and two-point conversion. Justice was served, though, as the Chargers rallied to win the division.


1. The Play -- From Two Snaps Ago -- is Under Review Cleveland is well known for its looming sports curse. After all, the city hasn’t tasted a title in any of the major sports since 1964. Although the Browns were far from the Super Bowl, they were fighting for a spot in the playoffs and had a packed Cleveland Browns stadium believing in 2001. Down 15-10 to Jacksonville with less than a minute to go, the Browns were driving. Tim Couch hit Quincy Morgan on fourth-and-2 to reach the 9-yard line and a first down. Couch quickly assembled his line and spiked the ball to stop the clock with 48 seconds to go. But as the Browns prepared for their next play, referee Terry McAulay announced that his replay buzzer went off just before the previous play was snapped and the play would be under review. As any casual football fan can tell you, however, a play cannot be reviewed after another play -- yes, even a spike -- is run. The refs called Morgan’s catch incomplete, ending the Browns’ drive, hopes of winning the game and chances for the playoffs. The snarling Dawg Pound responded as expected, tossing bottles and any other objects at arm’s length at the refs, igniting a furious riot in championship-starved Cleveland.



http://www.nesn.com/2010/06/breaking-down-the-top-10-worst-referee-mistakes-in-history.html 

Shall we continue?
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
11 years ago
Since they are sorely missed.. lets revisit comments on the types we currently are locking out.

Walt Coleman 

http://www.refsuck.com/ 

There mission statement...

WHY THIS SITE?

I created this site to expose a problem in the NFL. The league would have you believe NFL officials do a great job and no problem exists. But far too often we see officials blow calls and make up rules. I'm not here to bust balls, but to pressure the NFL to address the problem. It's time the NFL hold officials accountable and admit to mistakes. More importantly, it's time the NFL implement a system whereby officials are not deciding the outcome of games, but are in place to assure a game is played fairly and within the rules.




"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
11 years ago
My point is.. the game with continue on. Refs and missed calls have been and will always be a part of the game.

Basically, the focus on it is over the top IMO, especially considering the demands these part time employees of the league, thus us the fans want.

Piss on them. Watch the games from your couch on Sunday and collect nothing.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

My point is.. the game with continue on. Refs and missed calls have been and will always be a part of the game.

Basically, the focus on it is over the top IMO, especially considering the demands these part time employees of the league, thus us the fans want.

Piss on them. Watch the games from your couch on Sunday and collect nothing.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I don't want any officials, but do understand someone has to spot the ball and indicate the down. I'd rather more officials off the field making the call. The NFL has too many rules in my opinion and makes too people cry "wahh not fair!".

I say, lace up, shut up, and play the game like men, not metro-sexual whiny asses worried about their next commercial take and if they have a black eye or not.
UserPostedImage
Formo
11 years ago

Last nights game was pretty clean, one missed defensive holding near the goal line was the major miss of the night. But really, don't the normal refs miss the same types of calls last night.

Another gaff was they botched the descriptor on a false start by calling it offsides.

Watching the game, I think they let the secondary play a little bit more aggressive than normal, but that even with the normal crews vary from crew to crew.

Overall.. they really had no impact on the game. In fact, the shot on Eli was probably a subjective call in which they sided on player safety by enforcing the roughing. Up yours De.

They are not going to be perfect.. but then again neither are the normal crews. But because the attention is focused on them, we are highlighting everything. Pop in a game from last season and focus on the officiating.. your going to see missed calls throughout the game. The focus just wasn't as intense on it.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I did't see the game, but that's what I heard. Hopefully this is a good sign that they won't be as terrible as I've seen them. Of course, that was only one game.. we have a whole Sunday to look at as well. But as of right now, the replacement refs are 1-0. Good for them.
UserPostedImage
Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Pack93z
11 years ago
The Packers game... I will admit that the refs have been overly involved due to mistakes or bad calls.

Some against the Packers.. some have helped them. This has been a poorly reffed game.

But been pretty evenly split in poor calls.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Formo
11 years ago
Replacement refs looked terrible in the 2+ games I watched today. While they didn't botch plays as bad as they did in the Packer/Niner game, the Vikings refs most certainly looked like HS refs.
UserPostedImage
Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
porky88
11 years ago

The Packers game... I will admit that the refs have been overly involved due to mistakes or bad calls.

Some against the Packers.. some have helped them. This has been a poorly reffed game.

But been pretty evenly split in poor calls.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


I got tired of the announcers harping on angry coaches, because we all know the coaches never got mad at the regular officials. [sarcasm]

The lack of consistency is troubling. I don't mind late calls. The game's moving very fast, so they need time to react, but we need consistency. They weren't consistent in the Green Bay game. A couple of lucky plays and you could argue San Francisco was cheated out of a major road win had Green Bay came back.
Fan Shout
dfosterf (17h) : Maybe
Mucky Tundra (17h) : Yes
Zero2Cool (18h) : No.
Mucky Tundra (20h) : End of a Degu-era
dhazer (21h) : Steelers sign Patterson because of new kickoff rule interesting
Zero2Cool (28-Mar) : Former #Packers TE Josiah Deguara is signing a 1-year deal with the Jaguars, per source.
Zero2Cool (28-Mar) : They do not do it for "content sake".
dfosterf (28-Mar) : For the record, I enjoy Beast and Mucky drafts
Zero2Cool (27-Mar) : Haha
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : No time for talking! Back to work beast!
beast (27-Mar) : You saw only 4,201 of my mocks? 🥺 I think that means you missed more than half of them 😢
dfosterf (27-Mar) : Does anyone know what Lambeau field improvements got put on hold? My guess would be for the 2025 draft
Zero2Cool (27-Mar) : It's like listen, you made 4,201 mocks, no shit.
Zero2Cool (27-Mar) : Cuz during the draft "I had them mocked there!" as if it's amazing.
Zero2Cool (27-Mar) : They're fun to do once in awhile. It's people who think they are "content" that annoy me.
dfosterf (27-Mar) : Against tbd
dfosterf (27-Mar) : Answer to your question is yes, it's a Thursday, will be the Chiefs aga
dfosterf (27-Mar) : Luckily for all concerned, I don't post them. I did one, but that was like 25 mocks ago
Zero2Cool (27-Mar) : NFL 2024 gonna start Sept 5th isn't it???
Zero2Cool (27-Mar) : Ugh... kids these days!
dfosterf (27-Mar) : I'm gonna go do some more mock draft hell instead 🤪
Zero2Cool (27-Mar) : Did we do one of those prediction threads yet for 2024 season?
dfosterf (27-Mar) : In my city, they are playing the nimby game, in order to keep some railroad tracks vs. 2 professional sports teams and a concert venue.
dfosterf (27-Mar) : And/Or a city council, of which I haven't seen a good one in a very long time
dfosterf (27-Mar) : That sounds like a Mayor, not a city.
buckeyepackfan (26-Mar) : Packers halt scheduled 80mil upgrade of stadium until lease agreement talks are restarted
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : City of Green Bay puts Packers' Lambeau Field lease talks on hold
buckeyepackfan (26-Mar) : Packers 1 of 3 teams to vote no on new kickoff rule.
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Packers sign another Kicker
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Lengthy explanation at PFF if you click the link
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Kickoff rules officially changed.ngthy explan
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : lol
Cheesey (26-Mar) : 2009? No thanks! One open heart surgery is enough!
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Good for you!
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Yes. That's the one.
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Is that "Lady Dugan" per chance?
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Crystal?
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Please refresh my memory
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Alan posts. Crystal back in my life. It's 2009 all over again! Lol
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : BAH GAWD! THAT'S CHEESEYS MUSIC!
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Gutekunst said early stages of Jordan Love contract being discussed.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Shouldn't be penalized cuz official screwed up
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Yeah, challenge until you are incorrect twice.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Fining them is the goal, per the people who made the rule anyway.
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Still waiting on the kickoff rule changes. Did hear yesterday that the touchback proposal will now be the 30 yard line, not the 35
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Probably speed of game issues with your proposal
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Hopefully the refs don't get in the habit of throwing flags on this
beast (25-Mar) : I think when it comes to Challenges should get two strikes, so unlimited challenges as long as they keep winning them, but 2 wrong then done
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Still subject to the fines etc
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Yes, I should have been more specific. Also, they are now saying it would be a 15 yard penalty. That makes more sense .
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
2h / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

28-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

28-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

27-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Mar / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

27-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

26-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

26-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

26-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

25-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

24-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

24-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.