Porforis
11 years ago

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First, I think more Americans need to declare their independence from partisan politics on both sides. The more that Americans declare their independence, the more the parties will have to compete for their votes using reason rather than the hateful appeals. ~ John Avlon

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



His name sounds familiar, but I couldn't put this any better myself. Only problem I have with this is that lots of people LOVE feeding into the hateful appeals. After all, I am right and the other guys are wrong so it's okay to mock and dismiss everything they have to say, suppress their speech, and blame everything on them.
vikesrule
11 years ago

Quote:
First, I think more Americans need to declare their independence from partisan politics on both sides. The more that Americans declare their independence, the more the parties will have to compete for their votes using reason rather than the hateful appeals. ~ John Avlon

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



“There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, it to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution."—John Adams




"The middle of the road is all of the usable surface. The extremes, right and left, are in the gutters.”- Dwight D. Eisenhower



And Eisenhower was one President that was highly underrated...he was also the first one to warn of the dangers of a military/industrial complex.
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11 years ago
Social media last night was case in point, like we need validation, of just how divided we are as a nation because of this two party nonsense.

Twitter had examples aplenty of people bashing, thrashing and attacking others in bulk because of views. Even the people that are hoping for the best of the nation getting attacked.

Honestly, I sat glued to Twitter watching the vitoriol being slung openly.. mostly appalled at the complete lack of citizenship displayed openly.

It truly embeds the notion that this country is eating itself from within.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago
I have major issues with the two party system, besides the other party being completely whacked. But it is hard if not impossible to get it changed when those who would need to change it are one of the two parties.

In order to make change, legitimate 3rd parties need to get into power at the state level and congress. While not an official party, the Tea Party movement has tried to get fiscal conservatives into power through the republican party. and has had some success. If those conservatives now broke away from republicans for say the libertarian party, that would help establish them as more legitimate. Problem is, that weakens the power of republicans and not democrats and the next election democrats would beat both parties because of splitting the vote.

I think now both parties fear that 3rd party candidate will infiltrate and get seats and then leave the party. so they are nominating less center leaning candidates.

One 3rd party needs to stand up, and make a real push, with real funding.
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