That's cause you're not an owner like Gunny and me. [grin1]

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

What you don't understand is this, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHERE ANY PACKER PLAYER WENT TO COLLEGE!!!!!

I root for ANYONE who is on the field, I don't have my favorites, or guys who don't "live up to my expectations"

When are you going to figure it out?

Nobody is perfect, EVERYBODY gets beat now and then, doesn't matter how much they get paid.

You ARE NOT THE GM, you don't determine the worth of a player.
you ARE NOT THE HC,you don't determine how much playing time a player gets.

How many times in the past 3 years has A.J. Hawk been as you say "torched" over the middle?

I am betting less than 5, yet EVERY one of those plays ended up with a new thread being created on this forum, and you NEVER let a chance go by to let it be known how you feel.

I'm sorry you get bothered by how much any player gets paid, that's Ted Thompsons job.

Which playere earned their contract last year????

Hawk or Bishop????

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

5 times in three years, huh? Do you even watch the games? The reason he gets yanked off the field on third down is because he too slow to match up with the new breed of TE. You don't pay top dollar for a linebacker that comes off the field on third down. Just like you don't spend $2M on a 5th or 6th receiver that doesn't play special teams. But yeah Buckeye, I'm the asshole for pointing these things out. You win!

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Show me!!!
You're the one who claims to know everything, you have to have the games archived.

I remember 4 or 5 plays in the past 3 years that A.J. Hawk absolutely got beat.

Yes I record almost every game, and then break down those games, because I find it quite enjoyable.

What I don't pretend to be is a GM or a coach, thinking that I can evaluate what a player is or isn't worth.

You're damn right I am right, as usual, hell this has been going on for 5 years, sooner or later you will be right.

Just like the 6th or 7th receiver, sooner or later you will be right, I just enjoy you making an ass out of yourself the 3 or 4 years leading up to the point where you are right.

Sooner or later A.J Hawk will be replaced, not because he hasn't earned his money, but because someone will finally come along who plays the position better and can actually stay on the field.

I've said it before, when that day comes, that's when I start rooting for whoever that player is, my only hope is that it is someone who you also think is overpaid that way I can enjoy you once again staing how "dissapointed" you are.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

It's better to put yourself out there and make a prediction than coming back after the fact with brilliant hindsight 'facts'. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

But Buckeye's the person playing GM not me who actually comments on play of the players. Buckeye must be a Republican - do the crime and point to the other guy.


There's is no way Driver should have been on the team in 2012, hell he stood in street clothes half the year, but he collected his salary didn't he? And AJ Hawk should be taking a paycut - right now. He can't be cut because of the contract he signed. Kudos to Hawk's agent, all of Ohio must be rejoicing.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

I don't think saying something about a political party helps anything nor is it relevant. Donald Driver earned his way onto the roster. The guy had the best training camp. I was there, I seen it. I posted about it. Do I think he was worth his salary? Not really, but then again, I'd rather be blissfully ignorant on the salaries of players.

I don't think anyone in Ohio cares about A.J. Hawk's contract. Hawk is a two down linebacker who is assignment sure and lacks sizzle. We all knew this BEFORE the draft, before he was drafted. It was said over and over, he has reached his ceiling, but is a very safe pick.

Hawk is a good linebacker. Is he worth his salary? I think an argument could be made that 95% of the athletes in this country do not have a worth in their salary.

You both have opinion's and that's cool. I think ya guys just need to respect that you disagree and carry on to a new topic.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Well I'm not a bitch, Zero, and if someone insults me I'm going to defend myself. And the fricken guy has been needling me.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

A.J Hawk could have been rated the best lb in the NFL over his career and you would find something to "BE DISSAPOINTED" about.

Just because he was a 1st rnd pick.

Stop with your bullshit "spins" and just admit no matter how he plays, he will never live up to your "expectations".

2012 A.J, Hawk was paid 6.54 mil, played every game
2012 D. Bissop was paid 4.25 mil, played 5 ...6 games?

Which player earned their contract min 2012????

Why are you not all over Bishop for being overpaid????
Why are you not all over bishop for not "playing up to his potential?"

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan