gbguy20
11 years ago

I'm with Kev as in I damn near refuse to pay for cable. We have it now, though, but only for 6 months. Because of a promo that brought the bundle (internet/basic cable) cost down to the same price as our internet alone. And we got HBO as a bonus. As soon as this following NFL season is up, I'm canceling the cable.

But I really, REALLY hope the idea of subscription fees for over-the-air broadcasting via ANY big network doesn't even sniff the light of day. That's effin' bogus.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



I agree completely with the free big networks never charging a subscription fee, but I also think of one of them does, it will be a suicide if the others do not follow suit. Who is going to pay to watch that station when they can just find the show they want on hulu?

Anyways, I was reading about Google's future TV service (they have it installed in kansas city as a beta test right now) and how they won't be like cable or satellite in how they charge for packages. They are going to let you pick and choose what channels you want to receive individually and pay a fee for each one. Depending on the price for each channel, I am all for this idea, seeing as I have hundreds of channels right now that I will never watch.
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11 years ago

Oh, I didn't know what you meant then, my mistake. I thought you meant airing it live. So bars actually "DVR" events and replay them? I see Walmart replays Super Bowl XLV all of the time in their Packers section.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't know. If I owned a bar and had a team in a championship game I would and then if they win replay it until the crowd thinned out.
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11 years ago

I agree completely with the free big networks never charging a subscription fee, but I also think of one of them does, it will be a suicide if the others do not follow suit. Who is going to pay to watch that station when they can just find the show they want on hulu?

Anyways, I was reading about Google's future TV service (they have it installed in kansas city as a beta test right now) and how they won't be like cable or satellite in how they charge for packages. They are going to let you pick and choose what channels you want to receive individually and pay a fee for each one. Depending on the price for each channel, I am all for this idea, seeing as I have hundreds of channels right now that I will never watch.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



cable is looking at this concept too. We have a thread that very briefly touches on it.

http://packershome.com/forum/yaf_postst17269_Cablevision-Viacom-Lawsuit--Signals-End-Of-Traditional-Cable-Model.aspx 
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

I agree completely with the free big networks never charging a subscription fee, but I also think of one of them does, it will be a suicide if the others do not follow suit. Who is going to pay to watch that station when they can just find the show they want on hulu?

Anyways, I was reading about Google's future TV service (they have it installed in kansas city as a beta test right now) and how they won't be like cable or satellite in how they charge for packages. They are going to let you pick and choose what channels you want to receive individually and pay a fee for each one. Depending on the price for each channel, I am all for this idea, seeing as I have hundreds of channels right now that I will never watch.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, etc ... pay the network for the rights to have those shows available, so they get their money. What they miss out on is advertisement revenue, which is why ... yes, I will pound this to the death ... every network should stream their own shows FREE with brief 15-30 second commercials (2-3 per break). It'll kill off DVR, but if people can go to a website or app and watch their show at will, what need would their be?
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Porforis
11 years ago

Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, etc ... pay the network for the rights to have those shows available, so they get their money. What they miss out on is advertisement revenue, which is why ... yes, I will pound this to the death ... every network should stream their own shows FREE with brief 15-30 second commercials (2-3 per break). It'll kill off DVR, but if people can go to a website or app and watch their show at will, what need would their be?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



There's really two forces fighting against that - Fear about moving what used to be a solid business model to a digital model that really hasn't been explored yet, and the massive cost for the hardware and bandwidth to stream HD content to millions of people simultaneously. With over the air broadcasts, individual stations pay for the broadcast towers, staff, and power to run it all. If they completely shut down all the free local broadcasts (which will happen the second this content is free over the internet), suddenly Fox is inheriting all the cost and risk.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

There's really two forces fighting against that - Fear about moving what used to be a solid business model to a digital model that really hasn't been explored yet, and the massive cost for the hardware and bandwidth to stream HD content to millions of people simultaneously. With over the air broadcasts, individual stations pay for the broadcast towers, staff, and power to run it all. If they completely shut down all the free local broadcasts (which will happen the second this content is free over the internet), suddenly Fox is inheriting all the cost and risk.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Inheriting all the cost AND profit too. They won't have to share the profit. Once the digital move starts, more and more technological advancements will procure and provide more efficient methods of handling this task.

The profit margin is going to be HUGE on this. Watch.
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Pack93z
11 years ago
Additionally to those point, there is the reality that there are still large areas of this nation that don't have a grid large enough to effectively handle the bandwidth to support the household draw that this would cause.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Porforis
11 years ago

Inheriting all the cost AND profit too. They won't have to share the profit. Once the digital move starts, more and more technological advancements will procure and provide more efficient methods of handling this task.

The profit margin is going to be HUGE on this. Watch.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Oh, I'm sure it will be. But it's still a huge risk to take a massive corporation and dramatically change how it does business and how it distributes its product, especially when you're going into uncharted waters. If things turn out well, Fox makes out like bandits. If things go sour, they turned a successful business into a bankruptcy.
Formo
11 years ago

I agree completely with the free big networks never charging a subscription fee, but I also think of one of them does, it will be a suicide if the others do not follow suit. Who is going to pay to watch that station when they can just find the show they want on hulu?

Anyways, I was reading about Google's future TV service (they have it installed in kansas city as a beta test right now) and how they won't be like cable or satellite in how they charge for packages. They are going to let you pick and choose what channels you want to receive individually and pay a fee for each one. Depending on the price for each channel, I am all for this idea, seeing as I have hundreds of channels right now that I will never watch.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I've been clamouring for 'a la carte' channels for ages. I would be all for this if that's the case.
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