texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

I can summarize this and almost all political threads in a little over a sentence on current issues.

Neither party is in it for the people any longer, it is about funding, party control and re-election. Any actions either party takes is either public relations to gather more funds or damage control to retain said funds.

We the people beating each other up in defense of either party is playing into their hands, nothing more.

Until we the people retake control of the process and remove the power from a corrupt two party system, progress will be fleeting.

Yet, here we sit, like most of America, trying to play the party lines. Defeating.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



When was any political party ever anywhere "in it for the people"? It's all about money and power, and maybe a little bit of "my way is better than your way".

But you know what? It has given us the greatest country in the world with the most freedom and the most prosperity to enjoy that freedom of anybody in the history of the world. And did you notice on wpr's graphs, they all were moving upward hahahaha.

Does anybody think we would have the NFL and the Packers under Communism or Muslim Sharia Law? All year would be the off-season then, and we sure as hell wouldn't be able to have fun debating about either politics or football.

What's this about PackerHome being up for sale - and so cheap? Truth or Bullshit? If truth, let's see your profit and loss statement. I might just pay $1,998 myself.


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10 years ago

When was any political party ever anywhere "in it for the people"? It's all about money and power, and maybe a little bit of "my way is better than your way".

But you know what? It has given us the greatest country in the world with the most freedom and the most prosperity to enjoy that freedom of anybody in the history of the world. And did you notice on wpr's graphs, they all were moving upward hahahaha.

Does anybody think we would have the NFL and the Packers under Communism or Muslim Sharia Law? All year would be the off-season then, and we sure as hell wouldn't be able to have fun debating about either politics or football.

What's this about PackerHome being up for sale - and so cheap? Truth or Bullshit? If truth, let's see your profit and loss statement. I might just pay $1,998 myself.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Nope. We would be stuck with IFBA futball.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

What's this about PackerHome being up for sale - and so cheap? Truth or Bullshit? If truth, let's see your profit and loss statement. I might just pay $1,998 myself.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 




PackerHome has zero profit, as it is not a website, but only a domain that is available for purchase.

PackersHome has zero profit, and you do not want to know the annual loss, lol.
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Pack93z
10 years ago

When was any political party ever anywhere "in it for the people"? It's all about money and power, and maybe a little bit of "my way is better than your way".

But you know what? It has given us the greatest country in the world with the most freedom and the most prosperity to enjoy that freedom of anybody in the history of the world. And did you notice on wpr's graphs, they all were moving upward hahahaha.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Not saying we do not enjoy the freedoms most don't, but simply saying the it is getting further and further from the ideals set. In terms of politicians, there was a time within the last century where government was more geared for its intention set forth by the Consitution.. and decade by decade that is failing.

Am i worried about my lifetime.. nope. I could live out my days in bliss.. but that is not the point. Ignore the debt all you want, rely simply on our military power. To me.. that is short sighted at best, one that cares little about the blood those forces carry into battles. Why not attempt to not have to rely on force to continue our way.. why not carry forth the ideals that the country was founded upon. Why.. because it is easier to ignore the continued damage done by both parties to the standing of this county, and only rely upon the sword.



Does anybody think we would have the NFL and the Packers under Communism or Muslim Sharia Law? All year would be the off-season then, and we sure as hell wouldn't be able to have fun debating about either politics or football.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Probably not.. but one thing is pretty damn clear, no professional league would probably get off the ground today..every politician would cripple it running for their cut before the league could even get established.

That is an exact reference I am referring to above.. good damn thing it was established in a era where it had a chance to blossom.
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10 years ago
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Not saying we do not enjoy the freedoms most don't, but simply saying the it is getting further and further from the ideals set. In terms of politicians, there was a time within the last century where government was more geared for its intention set forth by the Consitution.. and decade by decade that is failing.

Am i worried about my lifetime.. nope. I could live out my days in bliss.. but that is not the point. Ignore the debt all you want, rely simply on our military power. To me.. that is short sighted at best, one that cares little about the blood those forces carry into battles. Why not attempt to not have to rely on force to continue our way.. why not carry forth the ideals that the country was founded upon. Why.. because it is easier to ignore the continued damage done by both parties to the standing of this county, and only rely upon the sword.




Probably not.. but one thing is pretty damn clear, no professional league would probably get off the ground today..every politician would cripple it running for their cut before the league could even get established.

That is an exact reference I am referring to above.. good damn thing it was established in a era where it had a chance to blossom.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



If you're talking government support for the current pro leagues, yeah, true, and I'm all for it. We don't need another AFL or even XFL if it has pretense of being/becoming major league.

My memory extends back to the fifties and sixties, and I'm here to tell you, Life is better now, all things considered - freedom, prosperity, the whole big picture - than it was then or anytime between then and now.

Debt is not merely ignored. It is ROLLED OVER - PAID with dollars backed by debt instruments - which is much the same as just printing more and more. It is GOOD Why? Because We, the People - the American government says it's good, and nobody is big and bad enough to say oh no it ain't. I do NOT see that as "damage". If you do, please explain why - assuming our status as big dog in the yard continues. It's not like we need to use force to make it happen. We merely need to have the force to discourage anybody else from trying to change the situation.
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Formo
10 years ago

STFU, the adults are talking, dumbass.

Originally Posted by: Dakotat 



I'll express my opinions whenever I want, jackass. You will hear them, and you will LIKE IT!

You just don't want to pay taxes. We know what your political views are. [grin1]

Originally Posted by: Dakotat 



No, I don't want to pay taxes on both ends of my finances. It's gubernatorial rape of our nations finances.

BTW, if the Vikings ask goat roper if will take a pay cut, he's out the first door. Saw that on NFL network. I bet he wants to come play for the Packers.

Originally Posted by: Dakotat 



Oh, you are so well informed. Let me educate you:

The only 'pay cut' Allen would get is a lower cap hit on his next contract. The 'pay cut' comment he made were in regards to if the Vikings asked him this past year to restructure his contract (which they didn't.. so it's a moot point). As far as his next contract goes, he'll get paid again. Not sure how much or from whom, but he's smart in that he doesn't talk the 'business' side of the game and lets his 'people' do the talking.

And make no mistake, he's a hired gun. He doesn't even live in Minnesota during the offseason (nor does he do voluntary workouts with the team). He'll bust his ass for for WHOMEVER signs his checks. Right now that's the Wilfs. Next year? Who knows.
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10 years ago

I'll express my opinions whenever I want, jackass. You will hear them, and you will LIKE IT!



No, I don't want to pay taxes on both ends of my finances. It's gubernatorial rape of our nations finances.



Oh, you are so well informed. Let me educate you:

The only 'pay cut' Allen would get is a lower cap hit on his next contract. The 'pay cut' comment he made were in regards to if the Vikings asked him this past year to restructure his contract (which they didn't.. so it's a moot point). As far as his next contract goes, he'll get paid again. Not sure how much or from whom, but he's smart in that he doesn't talk the 'business' side of the game and lets his 'people' do the talking.

And make no mistake, he's a hired gun. He doesn't even live in Minnesota during the offseason (nor does he do voluntary workouts with the team). He'll bust his ass for for WHOMEVER signs his checks. Right now that's the Wilfs. Next year? Who knows.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



First comment: [roflmao]

The little bit of taxes you pay, you don't get an opinion. Just say thank you to the rest of society for carrying your ass. [mfing]

As for the goat roper, that's just bait and you take it every time. [neener]

Love ya, buddy! Be coming through there the weekend after the 4th of July. Maybe I'll bless you with my presence if we stay in Maple Grove.
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Formo
10 years ago

First comment: [roflmao]

The little bit of taxes you pay, you don't get an opinion. Just say thank you to the rest of society for carrying your ass. [mfing]

As for the goat roper, that's just bait and you take it every time. [neener]

Love ya, buddy! Be coming through there the weekend after the 4th of July. Maybe I'll bless you with my presence if we stay in Maple Grove.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I let you troll me because I know it gets your jollies off.

You are welcome, little man.

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10 years ago
1. The burden of proof re: taxation should always be placed on those who would tax, not on those who wish not to be taxed, and the standard of proof should always be "beyond a reasonable doubt."
2. The amount of debt should be determined by the productivity of the debtor. More productive people (or countries) can, and often should, borrow more, than the less productive.
3. When the borrower is not the one who personally bears the consequences of over-borrowing, too much will be borrowed.
4. When the lender is not the one who personally bears the consequences of over-lending, too much will be lent.

The fiscal issues of the United States are due to:
A. We don't do #1. We do exacty the opposite.
B. When it comes to public borrowing, we have institutionalized #3 and #4, and therefore #2 has become increasingly irrelevant to our borrowing/lending decisions.

Sorry, Troy, that's about as short as I can make it.

(and, again, I'm no kind of conservative, neo- or otherwise.)

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