MintBaconDrivel
10 years ago

GREEN BAY -- If Mike Neal's latest injury -- and yes, the Green Bay Packers hybrid defensive end/outside linebacker knows with his injury history, he will have doubters -- only sidetracks him briefly, then this could wind up being the end of his bad luck in that department.

That's because Neal, who was listed at 294 pounds on the Packers' official roster before camp began and was on the sheet at 285 pounds while he stood and watched Friday's training camp-opening practice, said he is actually weighing in at 275 pounds. And he admitted Friday that the never-ending work in the weight room that bulked him up to play defensive line may have been the reason he's been hurt so much.

Neal opened camp on the active/physically unable to perform list with a pulled abdominal muscle, and coach Mike McCarthy said he expects Neal to miss "a couple weeks" as a result.

Nevertheless, the weight loss and pseudo-position change could do Neal a world of good.

"Some people, you just look at them, they're just built completely different," Neal said. "I'd like to say that at 294 I was really explosive, and that's not really good because if you've got all that muscle, you're pulling too much on tendons and stuff like that. And I've had tendon and ligament injuries. I mean, I've looked at it and I know it's one of those things. You're 300 pounds, but you can move a little bit faster than them. But, you're doing a lot of pulling and yanking on stuff that you shouldn't. The loss of weight will definitely be better on my body.

"It's more natural for me to be this weight, I feel better at this weight, I think I utilize my abilities better at this weight. They've given me the option to play around with it and (said), 'Where do you feel comfortable at?' They told me I didn't have to lose any, but if I wanted to, they'd see how I moved. It was up to me, how I felt.""

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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
Cripes he only weighs 274? Since it seems he cut down on muscle mass, does he even have the size to play dline anymore?
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Cripes he only weighs 274? Since it seems he cut down on muscle mass, does he even have the size to play dline anymore?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Datone is undersized too.

Hope Jolly's got something left.
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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

Datone is undersized too.

Hope Jolly's got something left.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



But isn't Neals calling card his strength? If he's lost mostly muscle is there anything left to his game? Well either way I hope he picks up a little bit of speed.


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PackerTraxx
10 years ago
TT is trying to add D linemen, but it seems like he's drafting bobcats and trying to build them into mountain lions.
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DarkaneRules
10 years ago
Looking for more tweeners in size to improve the gap integrity against these more athletic QBs and skill players.
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DoddPower
10 years ago

Datone is undersized too.

Hope Jolly's got something left.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Datone is 6'4 and 284 pounds. JJ Watt is 6'5 289 pounds. Brett Keisel is 6'5 285 pounds. Justin Smith is 6'4 285 pounds. He's not "under-sized." He easily has the frame to add a little more weight if desired. He's certainly not "over-sized", but still. He's fine. The Packers need more athletes. Period. Josh Boyd and and Gilbert Pena will be the new "run-stuffer's if both make the roster, in addition to Pickett, Wilson, and to some extent, Raji (and/or perhaps Jolly).

I'm not concerned about Datone's size, at all.
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Datone is 6'4 and 284 pounds. JJ Watt is 6'5 289 pounds. Brett Keisel is 6'5 285 pounds. Justin Smith is 6'4 285 pounds. He's not "under-sized." He easily has the frame to add a little more weight if desired. He's certainly not "over-sized", but still. He's fine. The Packers need more athletes. Period. Josh Boyd and and Gilbert Pena will be the new "run-stuffer's if both make the roster, in addition to Pickett, Wilson, and to some extent, Raji (and/or perhaps Jolly).

I'm not concerned about Datone's size, at all.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I'd like to add a certain fella who stood at 6' 4" 249 lbs racked up over 70 sacks while playing DE.


I think sometime we get too caught up in arm length, height, weight and forget that heart and intelligence play much larger roles.

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nerdmann
10 years ago

I'd like to add a certain fella who stood at 6' 4" 249 lbs racked up over 70 sacks while playing DE.


I think sometime we get too caught up in arm length, height, weight and forget that heart and intelligence play much larger roles.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Sounds like a great fit, for a 4-3.
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DoddPower
10 years ago

Sounds like a great fit, for a 4-3.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Either way, the few players I named are all 3-4 DE's, and there are many more I could have named that are very close to the exact size of Datone. Also, as I said, Datone has the frame to easily add more weight, if need be. But it's not necessary. He's size is a non-factor. Most 3-4 DE's aren't going to be Calais Cambell's, although I certainly wouldn't mind one of them on the Packers.
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