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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 5:16:42 PM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Losing some of that excessive muscle mass might help him stay healthier.

Knock on wood!


Don't forget about Conditioning!

Even though before I thought he could be an every down player like Matthews is.
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Pretty nifty move put on Kuhn at the end there, who almost fell over.


Kuhn got pwn'd by Perry, too, a couple of plays earlier. He didn't look good in that video clip.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:01:52 PM(UTC)
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Neal should be moved to the 3rd outside linebacker spot to make room to keep Jolly. If all these guys stay healthy, we just might have one mean ass front seven for a change. That should coincide well with all the ballhawks we have in the secondary. Now if we can just get 100% effort out of Raji's fat ass, the D could be dangerous again.
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#14 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 1:58:08 PM(UTC)
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Neal should be moved to the 3rd outside linebacker spot to make room to keep Jolly. If all these guys stay healthy, we just might have one mean ass front seven for a change. That should coincide well with all the ballhawks we have in the secondary. Now if we can just get 100% effort out of Raji's fat ass, the D could be dangerous again.


I'd like to see them make this move with Mike Daniels.

Dude's already an undersized DL. Plus his health is far more reliable.

But we shall see.
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#15 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 4:21:54 PM(UTC)
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Also there were rumors about them going to a 3-3 dime package which I haven't heard about them doing in training camp, so the rumor could be false ...

But a pass rush passage of

DL: Daniels, Raji, Jones

LB: Perry, Matthews, Neal

should be a good pass rush unit ... at least on paper.


Will this group be able to stop things up the middle, though? It doesn't matter if the edges can do their thing to the nth degree if the middle allows the quarterback to step up and run/throw dink passes up the middle.

I'm less worried about their ability to get outside pressure from people other than Matthews than I am about their ability to keep the middle unavailable consistently.

If we get the Raji of late 2010, it'll be fine. But will we get that Raji or the other one, the one that only needs the attention of one OL?

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Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
Will this group be able to stop things up the middle, though? It doesn't matter if the edges can do their thing to the nth degree if the middle allows the quarterback to step up and run/throw dink passes up the middle.

I'm less worried about their ability to get outside pressure from people other than Matthews than I am about their ability to keep the middle unavailable consistently.

If we get the Raji of late 2010, it'll be fine. But will we get that Raji or the other one, the one that only needs the attention of one OL?

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm hoping for Jolly to have a Comeback-Player-of-the-Year-type year.



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#17 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 6:10:31 PM(UTC)
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Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
Will this group be able to stop things up the middle, though? It doesn't matter if the edges can do their thing to the nth degree if the middle allows the quarterback to step up and run/throw dink passes up the middle.

I'm less worried about their ability to get outside pressure from people other than Matthews than I am about their ability to keep the middle unavailable consistently.

If we get the Raji of late 2010, it'll be fine. But will we get that Raji or the other one, the one that only needs the attention of one OL?



I meant that group for 3rd and long, where you expect them to pass the ball more than run it.

But it would be interesting to see Pickett in the middle of that when teams are more likely to run it.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2013 7:25:01 AM(UTC)
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I think Raji will be fine. Last year there was no supporting cast on the line. The coaches are on record saying he had a good year last year. So I'm guessing he was double and triple teamed a lot because the only other player they had to worry about was Clay. Opponents didn't have to worry about anyone else on the DL. Hopefully Jones, Jolly and Daniels can change that. But you are correct, we need to be strong up the middle both on the run and passing plays. Also this is Raji's contract year so there should be motivation from that.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2013 7:56:37 AM(UTC)
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I think Raji will be fine. Last year there was no supporting cast on the line. The coaches are on record saying he had a good year last year. So I'm guessing he was double and triple teamed a lot because the only other player they had to worry about was Clay. Opponents didn't have to worry about anyone else on the DL. Hopefully Jones, Jolly and Daniels can change that. But you are correct, we need to be strong up the middle both on the run and passing plays. Also this is Raji's contract year so there should be motivation from that.


PackerTraxx, I do believe the additions of Datone Jones, Josh Boyd and Johnny Jolly will transform the DL entirely, and will augment the performances of both Raji and Pickett. We're going to see much better line play on D this year. Where Neal fits in there, I don't know. But, I'm sure he'll be used more as a situational pass rusher if he's on the line.

I'm really intrigued by Neal working with the LBs. This could be really good.
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#20 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:10:47 PM(UTC)
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I remember when the Vikings had John Randle and AL Noga. They were small quick linemen. They were very disruptive. Randle was 280 and Noga was 260.
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