Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
2 Pages12>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline DarkaneRules  
#1 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 8:46:35 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 8/15/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 296
Applause Received: 581
I don't know about you guys, but he just doesn't seem to ever effect the play positively anymore. I either see him turned around or falling down. I have been most disappointed with him out of the d-line group this pre-season. Anyone else?
Offline Wade  
#2 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 9:08:56 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 8/1/2009(UTC)
Location: nowhere of importance
Applause Given: 861
Applause Received: 882
I haven't seen any of the preseason so I can answer that, but I've been disappointed in him for two years now.

IMO he's the most overrated starter on the team.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
gotarace on 8/23/2013(UTC)
Offline nerdmann  
#3 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 9:16:29 PM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 5,207
Applause Received: 1,226
Haven't focused on him.

He's in a contract year tho, isn't he?
Offline RaiderPride  
#4 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 9:30:23 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 7/17/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 249
Applause Received: 309
YES. He is in a contract year. This should be a motivation for BJ... The Pack chose to not sign him until after his contract year? Does this mean they are sceptical? Or saving money?

Here is what would worry me if I was Ted.

"Don't forget now, I was the ninth pick in the draft (in 2009)," Raji said. "I'm doing OK. I've made some money now and I've been pretty smart with it."

You have to be HUNGRY to be in the upper echeloned of the NFL in your position.

The statement above makes me worried he is CONTENT.

CONTENT died... When HUNGRY was born.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
wpr on 8/24/2013(UTC)
Offline beast  
#5 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 9:42:08 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 10/5/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 458
Applause Received: 555

I've thought Raji hasn't shown much explosiveness since his second year. People have said it's because of the lost of Jenkins and not getting one on ones anymore but that's not true. Raji has gotten one on ones at times and has done nothing with them.

I think it has more to do with the 3-4 scheme asking him to play a lot more two gap (run clogging) first and pass rush second than anything to do with Jenkins. And to be quite frank, Raji is very big... and decent against the run and run clogging... but he's not as hard to move as his size would suggest.

Honestly I think Jolly might be getting up into the top 2 of hardest guys to move on the Packers roster with Pickett being the other one. Though Jolly, Pickett and Raji are a lot of beef...

I might want Pickett and Jolly to play running downs more.
Jones more for passing downs.
And rotating in Raji, Danials and Wilson in some with both.
Didn't list Neal because he might be more at OLB.

Offline Gaycandybacon  
#6 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 9:42:49 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

United States
Joined: 9/17/2012(UTC)
Applause Given: 146
Applause Received: 186
What do you want him to do? It's preseason. I don't like judging guys by the preseason, especially vets like him. Obviously a solid preseason can springboard a solid regular season, but there should be no discussion about resigning this guy until after this season. Just like Finley.

It wouldn't be the end of the world though if we do end up not signing him, we can draft a NT high in the draft next year. There will be hard shoes to fill if will go through with it. I bet we franchise him. He's not worth a long term contract as of now.
Offline beast  
#7 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 9:48:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 10/5/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 458
Applause Received: 555
RaiderPride said: Go to Quoted Post
YES. He is in a contract year. This should be a motivation for BJ... The Pack chose to not sign him until after his contract year? Does this mean they are sceptical? Or saving money?


I think both... saving money, because they know a player of his talent is gonna cost a pretty penny, sceptical because he hasn't consistently lived up to that pretty penny price.

Though I think it's a bit different with Shields. I think the scraptical but losing money because he's going to be worth more after this season than before this season, after covering #1 WRs more... then again... maybe he the #1 WRs beat him up some he won't be worth more. We'll see.


RaiderPride said: Go to Quoted Post
Here is what would worry me if I was Ted.

"Don't forget now, I was the ninth pick in the draft (in 2009)," Raji said. "I'm doing OK. I've made some money now and I've been pretty smart with it."

You have to be HUNGRY to be in the upper echeloned of the NFL in your position.

The statement above makes me worried he is CONTENT.

CONTENT died... When HUNGRY was born.


I agree... also after losing the 49ers playoff game, Sitton made a comment sounding like he was happy with the Super Bowl ring he already has. I didn't like that comment but then again he was probably just brashing off the haters, after all he plays pretty well.

Offline Laser Gunns  
#8 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 10:36:07 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

United States
Joined: 9/30/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 49
Applause Received: 344
So much so that I really want to change my PH name :-&

Raji is not living up to what I thought he would be.
Offline blueleopard  
#9 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 10:53:22 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/22/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 142
Haters gonna hate, but I say you're spoiled. Instead of complaining over your conjecture, you should state what you would do to improve the defensive line.

How many games has this guy missed? He played in a 4-3 scheme in BC and drew comparisons to Warren Sapp when he was in the draft process. Sapp was an all-around player, but he also got above average sack numbers playing his position. What happened when he moved to Oakland? He played in the 3-4 and eventually became a forgotten man until retirement.

What Capers and Trgovac ask of Raji and the fact that he's held up shows his athleticism, and yeah he's been pushed around -- but we haven't exactly been going against poor offensive lines as of late. Line play is better as a unit.

In the Super Bowl year we had plenty of packages from the rush package where we had Jenkins/Pickett/Raji to the jumbo package of Raji/Green/Pickett -- that combined with stellar play from the other players on defense led to wrinkles such as the Raji interception.

Has he been playing like a top 10 pick? Maybe not, but he hasn't been a bust if that's what anybody's trying to imply.
thanks Post received 2 applause.
Gaycandybacon on 8/24/2013(UTC), DoddPower on 8/24/2013(UTC)
Offline nerdmann  
#10 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 11:01:01 PM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 5,207
Applause Received: 1,226
blueleopard said: Go to Quoted Post
Haters gonna hate, but I say you're spoiled. Instead of complaining over your conjecture, you should state what you would do to improve the defensive line.

How many games has this guy missed? He played in a 4-3 scheme in BC and drew comparisons to Warren Sapp when he was in the draft process. Sapp was an all-around player, but he also got above average sack numbers playing his position. What happened when he moved to Oakland? He played in the 3-4 and eventually became a forgotten man until retirement.

What Capers and Trgovac ask of Raji and the fact that he's held up shows his athleticism, and yeah he's been pushed around -- but we haven't exactly been going against poor offensive lines as of late. Line play is better as a unit.

In the Super Bowl year we had plenty of packages from the rush package where we had Jenkins/Pickett/Raji to the jumbo package of Raji/Green/Pickett -- that combined with stellar play from the other players on defense led to wrinkles such as the Raji interception.

Has he been playing like a top 10 pick? Maybe not, but he hasn't been a bust if that's what anybody's trying to imply.


Keep in mind they haven't been keeping him fresh all the time or playing him at his real position either.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h): First round is over. Reset your passwords.
Zero2Cool (3h): Thompson on Clark: We thought he was the best player available.
IronMan (7h): Brady won his appeal. no suspension.
Yerko (8h): Happy Draft Day everyone!
Pack93z (10h): Buckeye players that is... speaking of that, anyone see Buckeye around?
Pack93z (14h): You certainly can have enough Buckeyes.... and 1 is probably too many. lol.
Zero2Cool (27-Apr): draft chat party tomorrow boys/girls welcome come all
wpr (27-Apr): Hawk is a FA
IronMan (27-Apr): AJ Hawk is still in the NFL?
FLORIDA PACKER88 (27-Apr): You can Never have Enough Buckeyes! Lets sign Lil animal Laurinitis and Hawk and put em both in the middle! ;)
wpr (26-Apr): 48 hrs until Christmas!
Zero2Cool (26-Apr): We have one too many Buckeye on the team already!!
Porforis (26-Apr): AJ Hawk released. Lol if the packers picked him up, would make for some spirited debate
Zero2Cool (25-Apr): Tom Brady re-suspended for four games. Boring.
Zero2Cool (25-Apr): and next year it'll take 24 seconds to do 2017 ;-)
Zero2Cool (25-Apr): 2016 NFL Pick'em schedule ... done!
IronMan (25-Apr): ball for 14 seconds and doesn't even get a shot off. lol
IronMan (25-Apr): So the Hawks call a TO with 15 seconds left, the coach scribbles some play down on the board. They inbound it to Teague and he holds the bal
Zero2Cool (25-Apr): Scores for every season matchup dating back to 2012 ... done!
wpr (23-Apr): Smokey I posted something a day or so ago that it is 10 + mil
Smokey (23-Apr): How much CAP money is left in the Packers acct. ?
Zero2Cool (23-Apr): ;-) until tomorrow folks
Zero2Cool (21-Apr): Always surprised how deep his non-singing voice was and also how high pitched he sang.
Pack93z (21-Apr): Purple Rain is one of my favorite album's all time... played the crap out of it as a youth.
Pack93z (21-Apr): Wow... The Prince new... just wow... different cat, great artist
Zero2Cool (21-Apr): Yes, if signed before May 12, Panthers would get comp
TheKanataThrilla (21-Apr): Never heard of him either. Had a good year, but the Panthers get a lot of pressure on the QB to his benefit.
Zero2Cool (21-Apr): Josh Norman is kind of a one year hit, right? I can't remember hearing about him ever before 2015
TheKanataThrilla (20-Apr): Do the Panthers get a comp pick if Norman signs a big contract?
IronMan (20-Apr): Favorite Band? It's a generational thing. Nobody's ever gonna be cooler than GNR for my generation. You? I love music
IronMan (20-Apr): GNR
Zero2Cool (20-Apr): Browns trade 2 overall to Eagles. Browns with a wise move.
Pack93z (20-Apr): http://oneidaeye.com/2015/08/20/ron-van-den-heuvel-ive-made-74-people-in-this-town-millionaires-godfrey-kahn-letter-to-judge-walsh-court-doc
Pack93z (20-Apr): A must read... a guy that has worked the system for years, finally having to face the music. A interview. Long live America. http://oneidaey
IronMan (20-Apr): they thought I was dead and sent the police to my house to check on me lol
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

Current Headlines

2016 Opponents
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 12:00 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
54m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Laser Gunns

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackerTraxx

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

28-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

28-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / RaiderPride

26-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Wade

26-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / warhawk

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Wade


Tweeter