Zero2Cool
10 years ago
I dunno bout you folks, but I think I'm all out of excuses. Onward to the Redskins!
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play2win
10 years ago

He certainly did not. Kaepernick barely ever had to leave the pocket at all. Don't know where you got that from.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Maybe you just don't know what hyperbole means steveishere....

FYI, my 3rd time going through this fucking game tape. 1st half throws:
Rodgers in pocket = 17 with 2 TDs/ forced out or pressured = 7 with 1 sack

Kaepernick in pocket = 17 with 2 TDs/ forced out or pressured = 9 with 1 sack by Matthews, 3 pressures by Perry and 1 by Jolly.

Maybe I'll check same for 2nd half... But, this supports they both had nearly equal pressure to throw under. Kaepernick was actually under more.

Next time steveishere, buy a clue, or at least know what you are talking about.
play2win
10 years ago
You want the 2nd half #s steveishere?

Throwing plays:
Rodgers in pocket = 8 with 2 TDs/forced out or pressured = 6 with 1 sack

Kaepernick in pocket = 15 with 2 TDs and 1 FG/forced out or pressured = 7 with 2 sacks (Matthews, Neal/Williams) 1 pressure by Matthews.

Clearly, Kaepernick had all day to throw (as he was pressured and sacked more than Rodgers ... Huh? Hyperbole? Wha?). The numbers speak for themselves.
DoddPower
10 years ago

Maybe you just don't know what hyperbole means steveishere....

FYI, my 3rd time going through this fecking game tape. 1st half throws:
Rodgers in pocket = 17 with 2 TDs/ forced out or pressured = 7 with 1 sack

Originally Posted by: play2win 





You want the 2nd half #s steveishere?

Throwing plays:
Rodgers in pocket = 8 with 2 TDs/forced out or pressured = 6 with 1 sack

"play2win" wrote:




Rodgers threw for 4 tds?

Either way, Rodgers was still pressured more, imo. He compensated with many very quick release throws, which I'm sure you weren't counting. Kaepernick didn't appear to have to release the ball nearly as quickly. As always, stats rarely tell whole story, only the one that one wants them to.
play2win
10 years ago

Rodgers threw for 4 tds?

Either way, Rodgers was still pressured more, imo. He compensated with many very quick release throws, which I'm sure you weren't counting. Kaepernick didn't appear to have to release the ball nearly as quickly. As always, stats rarely tell whole story, only the one that one wants them to.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



No! Absolutely not. And, the drives resulted in TDs or FGs, not number of TD throws.

F'ing A man, I just went through the whole freaking game for the 3rd time to document this. I'm not reading stats here.

Nevermind. Wow.

BTW, Kaepernick didn't appear to have to release the ball as quickly? You need to watch the game again too man. Wow. You don't know what you are talking about either, I'm sorry to say.
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
I've seen this before over the years. We get beat, and certain (fill in the blanks - to avoid name calling) get all crazy about praising the flavor of the week that outplayed our guy.

Last post-season, after the Packers got knocked out, I became a 49er fan - well, a little bit anyway, as I always root for the NFC in the Super Bowl, and having beaten the Packers, I wanted them to get there. What did Kaepernick do? He proceded to become a whole lot less good than he had been against the Packers. Yeah, we can blame the Packers D, but the fact is, Kaepernick, who was out of his mind passing in the first half yesterday, and who was out of his mind passing against Green Bay in the playoff game, was a whole lot less accurate passing against the Falcons and Ravens. If he played like he did against the Packers in the Super Bowl, the Niners woulda beat Baltimore by four touchdowns.

And OF COURSE, as has been said, the O Line blocking for him and enabling their running game is so much better than the O Line attempting to block for Aaron Rodgers, that it is ridiculous.

Bottom line: Aaron Rodgers is a helluva lot better than Kaepernick (or anybody else), and the (fill in the blanks) saying otherwise need a good dose of reality, not to mention loyalty.
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play2win
10 years ago
Loyalty? Wow texas. You forgot the word blind. Yeah, I think the term "blind loyalty" is what you are after.

As I mentioned, I thought our QB play was great, and was the least of our reasons for losing to SF.

So, as a true Packer fan, I have to believe our QB is the best no matter what?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr 
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Loyalty? Wow texas. You forgot the word blind. Yeah, I think the term "blind loyalty" is what you are after.

As I mentioned, I thought our QB play was great, and was the least of our reasons for losing to SF.

So, as a true Packer fan, I have to believe our QB is the best no matter what?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr 

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Statistics don't mean a whole lot until atleast four weeks of the season has played. Heck, with your line of thinking, you probably had Christian Ponder in the dang Hall of Fame after his little streak of solid games! haha :P

Does ESPN's crap rating consider a catchable pass that was dropped into the opponents hands for an interception? ProFootballFocus accounts for that.
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mi_keys
10 years ago

Statistics don't mean a whole lot until atleast four weeks of the season has played. Heck, with your line of thinking, you probably had Christian Ponder in the dang Hall of Fame after his little streak of solid games! haha :P

Does ESPN's crap rating consider a catchable pass that was dropped into the opponents hands for an interception? ProFootballFocus accounts for that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Means even less when it is ESPN's "total QBR." That was just a sorry excuse to try and show Tebow is good.
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play2win
10 years ago

Statistics don't mean a whole lot until atleast four weeks of the season has played. Heck, with your line of thinking, you probably had Christian Ponder in the dang Hall of Fame after his little streak of solid games! haha :P

Does ESPN's crap rating consider a catchable pass that was dropped into the opponents hands for an interception? ProFootballFocus accounts for that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Precisely why I took the time to review all pass plays from the SF game and chart them "in the pocket" passes or "forced out/pressured."

But, people believe what they want to believe. And, know that I am very, very excited about Christian Ponder's chances to make the HOF. He has Greg Jennings you know!

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