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MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:59:15 AM(UTC)
JSOnline said:
Two games in, Jeremy Ross hasn’t been a threat as a kick returner. It’s not all on him, but urgency is rising.
Dulak  
#2 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:52:18 AM(UTC)
Sad thing is cobb is the better catcher and returner - but Mike McCarthy obviously wants to save him for his plays on the offense (WR, slant runner and scat back) - which I cant blame him - he is Awesome.

Id be happy if ross just catches the ball and doesnt bobble it.

olds70supreme  
#3 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 7:38:19 AM(UTC)
Ross is going to be the focal point, similar to a QB for the offense, but the fault isn't all on him. The blocking on kick returns has been bad enough that even I noticed. On one return in the SF game he started his return, and was tackled around the 10 yard line. Maybe it was a bad idea to bring the ball out, but the guy who tackled him ran right past the Packer blocker (don't remember who). The blocker looked like he was jogging in slow motion and didn't even attempt to impede the SF tacklers progress. I don't buy the idea that Cobb would do better than that, and if so it would be incremental.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#4 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:18:06 AM(UTC)
That seemingly stupid return as well as returns in general this season, the blocking has been fairly poor. Just the same, a lot of returners make something out of nothing. Kick returner is one position where very little training/learning is required, so if we could pick up somebody good during the season, it would help. I don't want Cobb to return kicks, and I have soured on the goodness of Ross. Like the title of the thread says, he needs a few "happy" returns to be worth keeping, as he has been non-existent in the passing game. What about Boykin? Has he ever been tried as a kick returner?
Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:19:40 AM(UTC)
My concern with Jeremy Ross is his decision making on when to or not to take the ball out of the end zone and when to fair catch.

Dulak  
#6 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:23:03 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
My concern with Jeremy Ross is his decision making on when to or not to take the ball out of the end zone and when to fair catch.



Lol I can still hear kuhn yelling to kneel down.
hardrocker950  
#7 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:56:00 AM(UTC)
If you catch it in the end zone, just take the knee. Set up shop at the 20 and let the offense do the rest. Simple enough.
steveishere  
#8 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:36:58 AM(UTC)
He will get better at returning im sure with experience. What I mostly care about and why I dont care if he stays is hes been sure handed.
nerdmann  
#9 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:51:38 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
My concern with Jeremy Ross is his decision making on when to or not to take the ball out of the end zone and when to fair catch.



My concern is him not muffing punts.
Porforis  
#10 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:12:25 AM(UTC)
Dulak said: Go to Quoted Post
Sad thing is cobb is the better catcher and returner - but Mike McCarthy obviously wants to save him for his plays on the offense (WR, slant runner and scat back) - which I cant blame him - he is Awesome.

Id be happy if ross just catches the ball and doesnt bobble it.


The other problem is that the dumb new rules = it's extremely rare you won't get the ball 8 yards deep in your own endzone. Cobb or no Cobb, you don't return that shit.
wpr  
#11 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:30:12 AM(UTC)
If the return game is the worst problem GB faces this season it will be an awesome year in deed.

At most we are talking about a difference of 5-8 yards. Aaron can make that up in his sleep. After all the worst the starting field position the more Aaron can pad his stats. In retrospect that must be the real reason why Mike doesn't want Cobb returning kicks since he is trying to help Aaron break every Favre record on the books.
gbguy20  
#12 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:42:56 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
My concern with Jeremy Ross is his decision making on when to or not to take the ball out of the end zone and when to fair catch.



same.

He also seems slow as shit.
SINCITYCHEEZE  
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:07:26 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
If the return game is the worst problem GB faces this season it will be an awesome year in deed.

At most we are talking about a difference of 5-8 yards. Aaron can make that up in his sleep. After all the worst the starting field position the more Aaron can pad his stats. In retrospect that must be the real reason why Mike doesn't want Cobb returning kicks since he is trying to help Aaron break every Favre record on the books.


So what you are trying to say is Poorer Return Game=Greater STAT-WHORING!!!!!!Flapper LOL [laughing] [roflmao]
wpr  
#14 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:36:13 PM(UTC)
SINCITYCHEEZE said: Go to Quoted Post
So what you are trying to say is Poorer Return Game=Greater STAT-WHORING!!!!!!Flapper LOL [laughing] [roflmao]


o:)

:-"
Laser Gunns  
#15 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:50:23 PM(UTC)
it bugs me that we are wasting a roster spot on this guy.

i'm sure there are WRs out there that can return kicks AND not contribute on offense.

this guy brings nothing.
nyrpack  
#16 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 7:36:05 PM(UTC)
im nervous every time hes out there, but i dont want to risk cobb getting hurt on returns unless its absolutely crucial !!
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