Zero2Cool
10 years ago

My wife is a very good football fan, and a diehard Packers fan, and she would freak out hearing you say that. She does not care much for Mason Crosby.

The whole thing is really F'd up. Mike McCarthy owns a huge share of the blame. As the article was written in July 2012, I would say we are trending in the exact same direction if not worse. Figure, too, this is a historic rate that Rodgers/McCarthy and that Packers are losing close games.

JaMarcus Russell was better...

Originally Posted by: play2win 



A lot of people don't compare stats to anything. That's why you get people hating Crosby without any due diligence, plus, last year he sucked. It's the same with Jermichael Finley. Other TE's who fans clamor over actually performed WORSE than he did. This is why I want comparative stats before I go bonkers. I did similar numbers for Rodgers in the fourth quarter back in 2010. I didn't have the time or ambition to find Favre's.

Also, is it the teams record DURING the game, or AFTER the game? After the game seems silly to me as they just snared a win.
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musccy
10 years ago


I was disappointed in the 4th and inches - instead of going with a sweep or anything to make the defense have to adjust - we see the usual Mike McCarthy "rushing" play call. This "up the middle" boneheaded call caused a fumble circus that costed us the lead.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



You have to gain 3 inches. The shortest path to 3 inches is straight ahead. Mike McCarthy is neither the first, only, nor dumbest coach in the league for trying to go straight ahead to gain 3 inches.

The basic concept seemed to work out alright for Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr in the Ice Bowl.
play2win
10 years ago

A lot of people don't compare stats to anything. That's why you get people hating Crosby without any due diligence, plus, last year he sucked. It's the same with Jermichael Finley. Other TE's who fans clamor over actually performed WORSE than he did. This is why I want comparative stats before I go bonkers. I did similar numbers for Rodgers in the fourth quarter back in 2010. I didn't have the time or ambition to find Favre's.

Also, is it the teams record DURING the game, or AFTER the game? After the game seems silly to me as they just snared a win.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I have no clue. Again. 😆
sschind
10 years ago

Most irritating part of this game - Cinci shot themselves in the foot several times, and rather than making the most of it the pack took the gun from them and shot themselves right back.

I was disappointed in the 4th and inches - instead of going with a sweep or anything to make the defense have to adjust - we see the usual Mike McCarthy "rushing" play call. This "up the middle" boneheaded call caused a fumble circus that costed us the lead.

I could name numerous things that made me shout 4 letter beauties, but I think we can all name the obvious ones.

Let's get healthy and clean these mistakes up!

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



Not saying I don't agree with you about the call but the call did not cause the fumble. If that was the case we would fumble a lot more.
Zero2Cool
10 years ago
@jasonjwilde @fakePOULTER Not what he wrote but the close games as topic. #Packers now 21-24 in games decided by 8 or fewer under McCarthy/Rodgers



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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
If you look at Comebacks. Take the following into account. Rodgers wins on par with the greats at over 60% total wins. Of his wins only 9% are from comebacks. If you look at some others. Like Elway, Favre, Marino, Peyton, Brady, Montana. They run from the upper teens, to mid 20's. Meaning for some of them almost 25% of their wins are come from behinds.

Now the question comes? Does Rodgers typically haver fewer comeback wins because when he faces a team we should beat, he has us in the lead, rather than trailing. Were those other QB losing to teams they should have been ahead of in the first place?
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PackerTraxx
10 years ago
Early in Rodger's career I remember him bringing the team back in the 4th quarter a number of times only to have the D let the other team score and no time left to try and come back again. Point being sometimes the D has to take the responsibility. What much of it boils down to is we have been really snake bit the last couple of years with season and career ending injuries to key players IMO.
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play2win
10 years ago

Early in Rodger's career I remember him bringing the team back in the 4th quarter a number of times only to have the D let the other team score and no time left to try and come back again. Point being sometimes the D has to take the responsibility. What much of it boils down to is we have been really snake bit the last couple of years with season and career ending injuries to key players IMO.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



Exactly the reason this should not be about Rodgers, but rather the Packers during this tenure under McCarthy.
olds70supreme
10 years ago

Exactly the reason this should not be about Rodgers, but rather the Packers during this tenure under McCarthy.



Having read through the topic I was just about to post this, but you said it more succinctly than I was going to. "Rodgers'" statistic for 4th quarter comebacks is a misnomer. How hard is it to understand that one person on any team, regardless of position, does not have the power to determine the win or loss? It is a team game, and it is really a waste of time even determining as a statistic. It's really a measure of how lucky we are to have lucked into Rodgers that the worst statistic people can point to isn't even his to own. QBs own a part of the responsbility for that statistic (good or bad) but that is it.

It's a pet peave of mine that every year people make a huge fuss out of events in the first few games. Like it's life and death that the Pack started 1-2 on the year. At this point nobody can say whether they will go winless, lossless, or somewhere in between for the rest of the year. On top of that the rest of the division hasn't been lighting it up. So much can still happen, it's early. It's okay to take a breath, relax, and enjoy the rest of the season.
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play2win
10 years ago
Awesome, brilliant post olds! Well done.

As far as the people responsible for our failed comebacks, that list is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG. Better to look to the HC, the man in charge of everyone else, and see if he can't get this righted. I think he can.
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