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dhazer  
#1 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 7:10:45 AM(UTC)
Espn is now reporting that the Bills are looking for a trade partner for Safety Jarius Byrd, So do we throw a mid to high round draft pick for him? He is in a franchise tag year so we would have to get a deal done before all would happen. I was just wondering what others thought of the idea of bringing him in? I say we pass because it will cost alot of money for his new contract.
buckeyepackfan  
#2 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 7:33:30 AM(UTC)
Not Ted's M.O.

He's not going to spend a lot of money this early in the season, way to many current Packers whos contracts need to be addressed by next year.

I think The Organization as a whole are happy with the talent they have, just got to get them all back healthy and on the field.

Now if a team would straight up release a proven vet at Safety, and Ted decided that player could be an upgrade and wouldn't cost an arm and a leg, then he might pull the trigger on a deal like that.
Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:12:31 AM(UTC)
Packers have nothing to offer the Bills.
nerdmann  
#4 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:15:47 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Packers have nothing to offer the Bills.


What do they need?
Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:17:45 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
What do they need?


It doesn't matter. Packers have no depth anywhere on the roster.
nerdmann  
#6 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:44:52 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
It doesn't matter. Packers have no depth anywhere on the roster.


What about a guy like Sherrod? Or Bulaga?

Just a thought.
Zero2Cool  
#7 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:46:32 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
What about a guy like Sherrod? Or Bulaga?

Just a thought.


Why would any team want either of them? Bryan Bulaga I can see, maybe, but that's a stretch.

James Starks would be more likely. He played at Buffalo.
nerdmann  
#8 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:54:21 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Why would any team want either of them? Bryan Bulaga I can see, maybe, but that's a stretch.

James Starks would be more likely. He played at Buffalo.


There you go.

Ted won't give up draft picks.
Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:59:00 AM(UTC)
Jarius Byrd will not be traded to the Packers.

1) Davon House.
2) The fact that no team can extend Byrd until after the season comes to an end.
DoddPower  
#10 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:01:14 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Jarius Byrd will not be traded to the Packers.


2) The fact that no team can extend Byrd until after the season comes to an end.


A similar situation worked out well for the Patriots and Aqib Talib. I remember several people here were blasting the Patriots for making that trade and saying the Patriots wouldn't be able to resign him to a contract extension and that he would leave after that season ended. As I expected, they resigned him and he is now a solid player for that team.

Of course, the Packers don't take any risks like that, really, even if it meant potentially improving the team.

earthquake  
#11 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:12:40 AM(UTC)
Talib was traded for a 7th round pick, very low risk for the pats, after repeated legal issues. Not really a comparable situation.
Zero2Cool  
#12 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:51:06 AM(UTC)
Aqib Talib is a free agent after this season.
Laser Gunns  
#13 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:13:24 PM(UTC)
Sign Freeman,

Trade him for Byrd...


WIN!
steveishere  
#14 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:14:28 PM(UTC)
earthquake said: Go to Quoted Post
Talib was traded for a 7th round pick, very low risk for the pats, after repeated legal issues. Not really a comparable situation.


That and he wasn't looking to be the highest paid player at his position
beast  
#15 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:05:29 PM(UTC)


IR ILB Francois (if he has a Torn achilles)

Sign TE Stoneburner to the 53 man roster.

And trade TE Finley to the Bills for S Byrd.



Not saying they should do that, just saying it's possible.
Bigbyfan  
#16 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:25:21 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
IR ILB Francois (if he has a Torn achilles)

Sign TE Stoneburner to the 53 man roster.

And trade TE Finley to the Bills for S Byrd.



Not saying they should do that, just saying it's possible.


I still can't understand why people seem to underrate Finley's importance to this team.

User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#17 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:34:12 PM(UTC)
Bigbyfan said: Go to Quoted Post
I still can't understand why people seem to underrate Finley's importance to this team.



Finley doesn't fit the image of "Packer People" to some of these guys.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#18 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 6:44:34 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Jarius Byrd will not be traded to the Packers.

1) Davon House.
2) The fact that no team can extend Byrd until after the season comes to an end.


What does Davon House have to do with it? He's a Corner and Byrd a Safety.

If we got the guy, he would be basically a hired gun for the remainder of the season, then a free agent. Therefore, he isn't worth more than a mid-round pick at most. I'd do that, but I'm fairly sure Ted Thompson won't.
beast  
#19 Posted : Sunday, October 6, 2013 7:05:50 PM(UTC)
Bigbyfan said: Go to Quoted Post
I still can't understand why people seem to underrate Finley's importance to this team.



Finley is important. But so would an amazing FS letting Burnett be amazing at SS again.

I just threw Finley out there because he's in his contract year just like Byrd is, and I didn't think Packers linemen in their final year would get the Bills interest enough. Though maybe WR Jones would. But he's also important as well. And with Matthews getting banged up / injuryed, Neal might be playing even more at OLB and other DL might be filling his shoes more on the DL.

Just throwing out an idea where it could be player for player.

DoddPower  
#20 Posted : Monday, October 7, 2013 1:40:54 PM(UTC)
earthquake said: Go to Quoted Post
Talib was traded for a 7th round pick, very low risk for the pats, after repeated legal issues. Not really a comparable situation.


I'm just saying that trading or obtaining a player whose contract expires after the present season doesn't mean they player will walk away. If an organization wants to keep the player they obtained, they are very likely able to do so. That shouldn't be a huge factor in obtaining a player, imo.

Talib may be a free agent after this season, but he was resigned to another year contract after playing out the season he was traded. The Patriots could have signed him longer if they wanted, I'm sure. That was their choice. He's playing well lately, so he's probably going to get another contract from the Patriots, or get a nice deal in free agency. Moreover, he has some legal/character issues that brought down his value some. I think the Pats took a calculated risk with him and faced very little consequence in doing so. I sometimes wish the Packers could find similar risks to take.

The main point is, sometimes risks pay off and really help a football team. If no risks are ever taken, then the payoff from them will never come. It's debatable if the rewards actually out-gain the risks, but it's certainly worth considering. I'm sure Ted Thompson does consider all the risks, but I do think he can be a bit too conservative at times.

Again, I'm not using the Talib situation as a foundation to pursue any other player, but I just don't think a contract expiring after the present season is that big of a deal. If there was significant concerns about such, then it should come up during the investigation by trained eyes and the deal would never happen.

EDIT: Besides, how many players out there wouldn't want fair market value to play for the Green Bay Packers? I think many players out there would be happy to be in that situation, and the ones that wouldn't be shouldn't be heavily pursued in the first place.
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