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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 1:21:41 PM(UTC)
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Nick Perry does not have a chance to play this week.

James Jones may have a chance this week.

Randall Cobb will be out multiple weeks.
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#2 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 1:29:55 PM(UTC)
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Uhoh, the McCarthy injury under-reporting kiss of death. I'm betting on Jones out for 4 weeks, Perry out for 8 but may be back for the postseason, Cobb's leg will need to be amputated.
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#4 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 2:54:41 PM(UTC)
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So next week we will not have Perry or Matthews?

Do we really have a choice but to basically run a 4-3 for the time being?
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#5 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 3:16:06 PM(UTC)
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Cobb fractured fibula, out 6-8 weeks: http://www.jsonline.com/...gs/sports/227733081.html
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Cobb fractured fibula, out 6-8 weeks: http://www.jsonline.com/...gs/sports/227733081.html


I'll take it. Give them the conditional IR tag and bring him back for the playoffs.

It wasn't his knee!

Hope this doesn't turn out to have been worse. I take this as good news.
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#7 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 6:20:52 PM(UTC)
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We just can't catch a break. Lose our best two pass rushing outside linebackers in consecutive weeks? Are you kidding me? Along with our starting Inside Linebacker? Oh my goodness...

And you can't say that Perry got hurt because he is "injury prone". He got hurt because a fatass lineman fell on his leg. That would've hurt anybody regardless of who it was. I hate it for Perry because this could have been his chance to prove that he can be a legitimate pass rusher in the league. Which in my opinion, he's already given us a good view of that.
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
So next week we will not have Perry or Matthews?

Do we really have a choice but to basically run a 4-3 for the time being?


Packers are short at edge rushers but I'm not sure going to a 4-3 would help anything.

3-4 is 3 DTs, 2 edge rushers, 2 LB and 4 DBs

4-3 is 2 DTs, 2 edge rushers, 3 LB and 4 DBs.


So both systems have two edge rushers, so I'm not sure switching to 4-3 would help. Unless they can have more DTs play 4-3 DE than 3-4 OLB... but the rookie OLBers might not be able to play 4-3 DE.


Personally I'd stay with the 3-4 because they're deep at DT and banged up at LB.

And maybe ask Datone Jones to get some reps at 3-4 OLB back-up. He moves very well, has long arms and played some LB in college his SR year as the team would move him around.

And ask the DTs to step it up and fill in for Neal and Jones on the nickel pass rush. But getting Jolly, Raji, Danieals, Wilson some more pass rush time seem like the least of all choices.
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#9 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 8:14:13 PM(UTC)
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beast said: Go to Quoted Post
Packers are short at edge rushers but I'm not sure going to a 4-3 would help anything.

3-4 is 3 DTs, 2 edge rushers, 2 LB and 4 DBs

4-3 is 2 DTs, 2 edge rushers, 3 LB and 4 DBs.


So both systems have two edge rushers, so I'm not sure switching to 4-3 would help. Unless they can have more DTs play 4-3 DE than 3-4 OLB... but the rookie OLBers might not be able to play 4-3 DE.


Personally I'd stay with the 3-4 because they're deep at DT and banged up at LB.

And maybe ask Datone Jones to get some reps at 3-4 OLB back-up. He moves very well, has long arms and played some LB in college his SR year as the team would move him around.

And ask the DTs to step it up and fill in for Neal and Jones on the nickel pass rush. But getting Jolly, Raji, Danieals, Wilson some more pass rush time seem like the least of all choices.


Being deep at DT and thin at LBer is precisely the reason to play more of a 4-3. Raji, Pickett and Jolly would be perfect DTs, Neal and Jones would be the primary edge rushers while Daniels and Wilson could be either DE/DT. The main difference would be that the edge rushers don't typically have any pass coverage responsibility.
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Being deep at DT and thin at LBer is precisely the reason to play more of a 4-3. Raji, Pickett and Jolly would be perfect DTs, Neal and Jones would be the primary edge rushers while Daniels and Wilson could be either DE/DT. The main difference would be that the edge rushers don't typically have any pass coverage responsibility.


We do have 4-3 personnel.
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