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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:29:25 AM(UTC)
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With Mike Neal being needed at OLB that means we should see more Datone Jones, right?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:43:49 AM(UTC)
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If Datone wants to be known as one of the all-time greatest DEs, he needs to bring it!
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
With Mike Neal being needed at OLB that means we should see more Datone Jones, right?


I wouldn't think so. Mike Neal's position this year is OLB. So the rotation at DL hasn't changed due to injury to OLB. However, it seems like I have definitely seen him on the field more recently.
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I wouldn't think so. Mike Neal's position this year is OLB. So the rotation at DL hasn't changed due to injury to OLB. However, it seems like I have definitely seen him on the field more recently.


They should switch Datone and Mike Daniels to OLB.
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They should switch Datone and Mike Daniels to OLB.


I would really like to see Datone get some time at OLB. He played some LB his SR year in college as a pass rusher from a two point stance.

I think the Packers could use Datone as a pass rusher espeically on the 2-4 nickel... where OLB is really playing a 4-2 DE like role.


As for Daniels, he moves very well, but I'm not sold on him being at OLB. I wouldn't mind trying it in practice to see if it might work thought.

If Daniels is going to play a LB spot, I'd want it to be in the former 3-4 system the Packers run which was more high risk / high reward and they asked their DL to pass rush a bit more and asking their ILBers (mainly Hawk) to deal with OL getting to them more. In fact, I think Hawk was being asked to play a LB/DL hybird role, which he had to move quickly to get to a OL blocking and try to beat them while keeping the ILB clean.

I think Daniels might be a very good fit for that LB/DL tweener role.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:19:08 AM(UTC)
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Well, assuming we can get some guys healthy and the new found pass rush from Perry coming from the right holds up, Daniels and Jones should get 1 on 1 matchups on the inside. It'll be up to Jones at that point to take advantage.
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I would really like to see Datone get some time at OLB. He played some LB his SR year in college as a pass rusher from a two point stance.

I think the Packers could use Datone as a pass rusher espeically on the 2-4 nickel... where OLB is really playing a 4-2 DE like role.


As for Daniels, he moves very well, but I'm not sold on him being at OLB. I wouldn't mind trying it in practice to see if it might work thought.

If Daniels is going to play a LB spot, I'd want it to be in the former 3-4 system the Packers run which was more high risk / high reward and they asked their DL to pass rush a bit more and asking their ILBers (mainly Hawk) to deal with OL getting to them more. In fact, I think Hawk was being asked to play a LB/DL hybird role, which he had to move quickly to get to a OL blocking and try to beat them while keeping the ILB clean.

I think Daniels might be a very good fit for that LB/DL tweener role.


If we're going to stand everyone up we might as well just run the Psycho package. The personnel we have now might have more success with it than when we tried it with Matthews and a horde of bums.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:06:21 AM(UTC)
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If we're going to stand everyone up we might as well just run the Psycho package. The personnel we have now might have more success with it than when we tried it with Matthews and a horde of bums.


Of the healthy guys, I think the strength of this defense is the NTs (Pickett, Raji and Jolly) and Daniels. Packers defense is ranked 3rd best against the run... and I'm assuming part of the reason the Broncos are #1 is because teams stop running as much trying to keep up with the Broncos offense.

But I don't think they could get all the NTs on the field AND playing well in the Psycho package.


I think it'd be best to stay with in the system that's already in place, other than maybe try to get OLB some more depth there maybe by letting them using Datone Jones some and asking other DL to step up for Jones at push DT in the nickel package. Maybe get Raji, Jolly, Daniels, Wilson more snaps in the pass rush DT role if the can handle it with out dropping off what they were already doing.

I wouldn't count on it, but Boyd might even be active for his first game of the season (because of so many injuries)

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Daniels has been our only pass rush from the D-line all year. Why on earth would anybody want to make in a LB?
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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
Daniels has been our only pass rush from the D-line all year. Why on earth would anybody want to make in a LB?


1: He can get to the QB.

2: He's undersized for our DL.

3: The DL in our system is supposed to take up blockers, to allow the LBs to get to the QB.
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