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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:12:30 AM(UTC)
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  • Total Offense = 5th
  • Passing Offense = 4th
  • Rushing Offense = 5th

  • Total Defense = 16th
  • Passing Defense = 18th
  • Rushing Defense = 3rd

  • Points For = 27.4 (5th)
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Cleveland Browns ( 3 - 3 )
  • Total Offense = 24th
  • Passing Offense = 17th
  • Rushing Offense = 22nd

  • Total Defense = 7th
  • Passing Defense = 8th
  • Rushing Defense = 7th

  • Points For = 19.7 (24th)
  • Points Against = 20.8 (11th)

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:02:19 AM(UTC)
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Browns defense numbers look pretty good. I still say let the Packers TE Finley and Bostick work at WR some... especially since the main reason Bostick seems to not get on the field is because of his lack of blocking skills and WR don't need to be as good of blockers as TEs do.

Also something I think is note worthy.

3 of the 4 Browns CBs are listed under 5'10"
3 of the 4 Browns S are listed under 6'

Boykins 6' 2"
Nelson 6' 3"
Bostick 6' 3"
Finley 6' 5"

Might be able to throw some jump balls. Also just thought of this, I'm sure the Packers want to stick with their run game but those 4 spread out with Lacy back there would be interesting combo.

Or take one off and put Quarless in as a blocker.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:39:36 AM(UTC)
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Well if we make the Browns one dimensional this could be fun. We need to get pressure though.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:01:23 PM(UTC)
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At least we don't have to worry about Trent Richardson.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:31:17 AM(UTC)
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My only worry is covering TE Cameron over the middle, that guy can play football.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:31:34 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jakest3r Go to Quoted Post
My only worry is covering TE Cameron over the middle, that guy can play football.


I dont know much about the browns these days - used to be a easy win ...

I agree with beast - be interesting if we can use your TEs more as WRs ... why not. Hope jones and #18 have a quick recovery.

Funny our D is only rated what #16; what I have seen this year is our D is the one saving our bacon in all these games (or attempting too) - Now not perfect; dont get me wrong (our corners and especially our safetys really need to watch some film) (I Still dont know why we got rid of woodson; at least he watched film and studied these QBs and maybe that would rub off on some of these younger guys).

... I digress ...

like to see bostick out there; he looked ' decent' in preaseason.

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#7 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:17:37 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dulak Go to Quoted Post
I dont know much about the browns these days - used to be a easy win ...

I agree with beast - be interesting if we can use your TEs more as WRs ... why not. Hope jones and #18 have a quick recovery.

Funny our D is only rated what #16; what I have seen this year is our D is the one saving our bacon in all these games (or attempting too) - Now not perfect; dont get me wrong (our corners and especially our safetys really need to watch some film) (I Still dont know why we got rid of woodson; at least he watched film and studied these QBs and maybe that would rub off on some of these younger guys).

... I digress ...

like to see bostick out there; he looked ' decent' in preaseason.



The D has held up. Unlike the O, they are not stat whores.

Alot of the stats against the D came in garbage time.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:31:16 AM(UTC)
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Packers' injuries so bad, game-day roster may come up short. Crazy.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:00:47 AM(UTC)
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Yeah it has been a huge shock to the team. It is really going to be a team by committee for a while.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:27:48 AM(UTC)
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No Problem - an easy win at home. The Packers offense comes to life similar to the Redskins game, even against a better defense - Rodgers has some new toys to play with. The young LBs do the job.

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#11 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:34:54 AM(UTC)
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Hoping for Aaron to get the team to overcome the injury bug that has landed on them. Better teams have lost to weaker teams when they have so many players out.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:08:50 AM(UTC)
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Seeing what Fauria did against the Browns defense last week, I would love to see a monster game from Finley. Dreaming I know.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:13:32 AM(UTC)
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I'll say it again,

The Browns Defense will be the best defense The Packers have faced this year.

Anybody thinking this is going to be an easy win, is probably going to be dissapointed.

The Packers need to pressure Weeden into mistakes, like he always seems to do.

Shut down the run and make them one-dimensional.

That's the key to beating The Browns.

I hope Special teams have taken notice of The Browns returner, he is well above average.

Advice....DO NOT KCIK THE BALL TO HIM!!!!!

THIS COULD TURN INTO ONE OF THOSE UGLY GAMES THAT COULD TURN ON A PUNT OR KO RETURN.

Packers 23 - Browns 9
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#14 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:17:13 AM(UTC)
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Regarding the theme of red zone efficiency. Now is as good a chance to change that up a bit. Last 3 weeks Browns are giving up a TD 71% of opponent red zone trips.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01:18 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
The D has held up. Unlike the O, they are not stat whores.

Alot of the stats against the D came in garbage time.


The Packers offense has operated pretty much as you wanted the last few weeks.

AND STILL YOU THROW OUT YOUR STUPID ASS SAYINGS!!!!

I'm gonna tell you right now, The Packers easiest road to success this weekend is to come out throwing the ball all over the park and jumping on a Browns team who will fold up and go quietly away if they find themselves down 14-21 points on the road.

You want to call it stat-whoring fine, just shows you 'rea 2 trick pony.

All you ever comment about is stat-whoring and T.O.P.

Neither that is true(stat whoring) or very relevant(T.O.P) to a Packer win from week to week.

2 rookie OLBr's, 1 Rookie (OT), 1 rookie DB all starting this week, add in 1 Rookie DE in the rotation and 9 other rookies who will play a big part on Special teams and filling in at times,

you get to use your FAVORITE TERM OF ALL TIME!!!!

How Many Times nerdman will you post it??????

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#16 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:14:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
The D has held up. Unlike the O, they are not stat whores.

Alot of the stats against the D came in garbage time.
The Packers offense has operated pretty much as you wanted the last few weeks.

AND STILL YOU THROW OUT YOUR STUPID ASS SAYINGS!!!!

I'm gonna tell you right now, The Packers easiest road to success this weekend is to come out throwing the ball all over the park and jumping on a Browns team who will fold up and go quietly away if they find themselves down 14-21 points on the road.

You want to call it stat-whoring fine, just shows you 'rea 2 trick pony.

All you ever comment about is stat-whoring and T.O.P.

Neither that is true(stat whoring) or very relevant(T.O.P) to a Packer win from week to week.

2 rookie OLBr's, 1 Rookie (OT), 1 rookie DB all starting this week, add in 1 Rookie DE in the rotation and 9 other rookies who will play a big part on Special teams and filling in at times,

you get to use your FAVORITE TERM OF ALL TIME!!!!

How Many Times nerdman will you post it??????

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I guess I am inoculated to nerdmann. I never even notice it anymore. I still comment on it plenty because he is lurking somewhere around the board.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:41:00 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
The Packers offense has operated pretty much as you wanted the last few weeks.

AND STILL YOU THROW OUT YOUR STUPID ASS SAYINGS!!!!

I'm gonna tell you right now, The Packers easiest road to success this weekend is to come out throwing the ball all over the park and jumping on a Browns team who will fold up and go quietly away if they find themselves down 14-21 points on the road.

You want to call it stat-whoring fine, just shows you 'rea 2 trick pony.

All you ever comment about is stat-whoring and T.O.P.

Neither that is true(stat whoring) or very relevant(T.O.P) to a Packer win from week to week.

2 rookie OLBr's, 1 Rookie (OT), 1 rookie DB all starting this week, add in 1 Rookie DE in the rotation and 9 other rookies who will play a big part on Special teams and filling in at times,

you get to use your FAVORITE TERM OF ALL TIME!!!!

How Many Times nerdman will you post it??????

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


The offense has been operating pretty much as I wanted?
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#18 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:59:59 AM(UTC)
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I think Tex is right. It's time for an easy win.

42-21.

Game essentially over before the fourth quarter. Prevent defense allows Cleveland to put up lots of yards and 2 touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

Lacy for 150+ on 26 carries.
Rodgers hyper-efficient, 18-22 and 3 TDs.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:04:00 PM(UTC)
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It should be an "easy" win but that depends on the defense not falling apart against one of the worst QBs in the league. The Browns defense is pretty stout so I don't expect a really high score but the game shouldn't be in doubt. Weeden is terrible.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:20:12 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
It should be an "easy" win but that depends on the defense not falling apart against one of the worst QBs in the league. The Browns defense is pretty stout so I don't expect a really high score but the game shouldn't be in doubt. Weeden is terrible.


Be nice to help out the defense, by keeping them off the field.
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#21 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:49:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Be nice to help out the defense, by keeping them off the field.


Defense shouldn't need any help. We should be able to win this game by punting on first down every drive. That's how bad their QB is. Not to mention their RB passed his prime a few years ago.

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#22 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 6:38:57 AM(UTC)
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I'm not convinced that this game will be "easy". Although we would hold an obvious advantage if our guys were healthy and at full strengh - not the case right now. I still see us winning, but again I am not convinced that it will be easy...
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#23 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 7:58:53 AM(UTC)
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I don't know why everyone is saying this should be an easy win, we are down to 1 wr and they have a pretty good cb in Hayden that shut down most of the receivers he had to cover. As was mentioned before they have a scary returner which we should kick away from. And their offense (yes alot better without Weeden) has some players to watch out for. Josh Gordon is a threat and I say watch out for McGahee he is getting back into football shape. With saying all that I say we still win by 8 I will call 21-13
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#24 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 8:35:06 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dhazer Go to Quoted Post
I don't know why everyone is saying this should be an easy win, we are down to 1 wr and they have a pretty good cb in Hayden that shut down most of the receivers he had to cover. As was mentioned before they have a scary returner which we should kick away from. And their offense (yes alot better without Weeden) has some players to watch out for. Josh Gordon is a threat and I say watch out for McGahee he is getting back into football shape. With saying all that I say we still win by 8 I will call 21-13


I don't know why you label one or two as everyone. Sensationalism much?

Packers are down to Jordy Nelson and Jarrett Boykin at WR. That's two, not one.

Willis McGahee has 164 yards rushing in four games with the Browns, but his per-carry average is at a mere 2.8 yards. And he also popped up on the injury report with a bad knee.

CB Joe Haden, WR Josh Gordon and returner Travis Benjamin (40 yard dash time: 4.36 seconds) are all big time players.


That being said, on any given Sunday anything can happen, right?


If the Packers jump to an early double digit lead, it's going to be a cake walk in which the defense will let the game be closer than it really was during the 4th quarter.

I could see 38 - 24 quite easily as much as I could see the Packers losing 17 - 20.

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#25 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 9:54:18 AM(UTC)
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I think this game is going to be closer than most think. Next man up has worked for the Packers in the past but I can't recall in the past having this many players out with an injury at once. The list is damning.

With that said, I do think the Packers win because we have Aaron Rodgers....and the Browns have Brandon Weeden. Rodgers is going to put the offense on his back and tear up the Browns secondary.

Joe Haden is a good CB and there is no denying that. However, he has shut down teams with average to below average quarterbacks. The best QB he has faced thus far is Stafford and Stafford tore the Browns up with 4 touchdowns. It will be up to Rodgers to put the ball where the receiver can get it. Jordy also needs to bring his A game as Haden will be on him the entire time (if not, Browns are stupid).

I believe the Packers will be able to execute the play action. Eddie Lacy will get close to 100 yards and score his first touchdown since the first week of the season.

So long as the next men up come in and do well, the Packers should have this win.

Packers- 24
Cleveland- 13
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