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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:31:25 AM(UTC)
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:47:58 AM(UTC)
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Bear week. MNF. Ohhhhh, this is going to be good!
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:02:26 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Bear week. MNF. Ohhhhh, this is going to be good!


still a bit worried about our lack or receivers - dont think Ive seen bostick out there much; say we give him a go.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:20:22 AM(UTC)
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I doubt any other team is ranked in the top five in 3 of four "Totals" categories. That's pretty impressive.

I would like to think the pass D would be ranked higher if it weren't for jumping out to leads and giving up a lot of yards in the 4th quarter to teams that are passing it every down.

Then again, I would like to see GB stop teams in the 4th quarter with a mentality that they will not let teams back in the game. A must attitude when it gets to playoff football.





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Offline GermanGilbert  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:12:32 PM(UTC)
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One of the lucky charms is in town, anything else than a blowout win would be really surprising Big Grin
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Offline OlHoss1884  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:55:25 PM(UTC)
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The Bears injuries on defense have made it difficult for them to stop the run up the middle. I see this one going a lot like the Vikings game.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:24:03 PM(UTC)
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No win is sweeter than a win against the Bears.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
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Offline texaspackerbacker  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:11:31 PM(UTC)
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I don't think the Bears woulda come close to the Packers in Green Bay under any circumstances. However, I see the loss of Cutler as more of a negative to them than maybe some people do. Cutler's downside is huge, but he had the ability to get hot - and I see McCown as "just a guy" who got inspired when he was thrown in last week, but who will come down to earth this week.

The injuries are giving the Packers an opportunity to develop some players who wouldn't have had a chance - Lattimore, Quarless, Boykin, the young OLBs, etc. This will only make the Packers stronger going forward.

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Offline sschind  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:00:34 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
No win is sweeter than a win against the Bears.


I disagree. Wins over the vikings or cowboys are 100 X sweeter than wins over the Bears

I respect your right to have your opinion but that doesn't mean I agree with it or respect you for having it.
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Offline DakotaT  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:09:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
I disagree. Wins over the vikings or cowboys are 100 X sweeter than wins over the Bears



Yeah, nothing is sweeter than a Packer beatdown of the Vikings.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:31:26 PM(UTC)
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Eh not for me. Not this year. I prefer the Vikings being more formidable.
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Offline porky88  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:05:23 PM(UTC)
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Cutler always did struggle against Dom Capers' defense, so his absence could be a blessing in disguise for the Bears. Nonetheless, Chicago's defense is not very good this year. They struggle to defend the pass. They struggle to defend the run. Green Bay is doing both well.
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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:20:38 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dulak Go to Quoted Post
still a bit worried about our lack or receivers - dont think Ive seen bostick out there much; say we give him a go.


Really? you're worried after the 2 performances with only 1 starting caliber receiver available? I actually think Boykin is starting caliber, albeit we've faced the Vikings and Browns, but the guy is coming into his own.

I don't look at it as the lack of receivers when you have 3 running backs that can play. Plus when you got a Jordy Nelson it makes it easier.

We have the 2nd most offensive yards in the league, plus we have surprisingly only given up 17 sacks through 8 games. Which I have to think it was way way higher at this time last year.

After seeing we can win with backup recievers, Jarrett Boykin, Myles White, Andrew Quarless just to name a few. I feel pretty damn good with anyone on the field as long as long as we have Arod.
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Offline Gaycandybacon  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:24:07 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
Cutler always did struggle against Dom Capers' defense, so his absence could be a blessing in disguise for the Bears. Nonetheless, Chicago's defense is not very good this year. They struggle to defend the pass. They struggle to defend the run. Green Bay is doing both well.


Only win Cutler has beaten us in his career was in Week 3 on MNF in 2010. Cutler sucks against the blitz imo. That's what kills him. He has a better offensive line though, Mcclown has a better offensive line. It's gonna be tough to get pressure on the Bears without Matthews. Hopefully we get back Nick Perry this week. Mike Neal has struggled the past 2 weeks. Gonna be a tough game. For the first time in severalllll years the Bears offense is better than their defense. Which isn't a bad thing.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:42:34 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
I disagree. Wins over the vikings or cowboys are 100 X sweeter than wins over the Bears

It all depends on your perspective. South of the cheeseland border beating to Bears even if they are hapless is much better than beating the vikies even if that win is for the division title.

The crap I get from Bears fans even from grandmas is ridiculous. A couple of wins a year keeps them quiet. I have not heard a whisper since the Bears began their annual hibernation.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:11:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon Go to Quoted Post
Only win Cutler has beaten us in his career was in Week 3 on MNF in 2010. Cutler sucks against the blitz imo. That's what kills him. He has a better offensive line though, Mcclown has a better offensive line. It's gonna be tough to get pressure on the Bears without Matthews. Hopefully we get back Nick Perry this week. Mike Neal has struggled the past 2 weeks. Gonna be a tough game. For the first time in severalllll years the Bears offense is better than their defense. Which isn't a bad thing.


hahaha It's a bad thing for their defense. For some odd reason (maybe because of that game you mentioned), Cutler scares me just a little bit with his potential to explode/get inspired/whatever - even though it would be unlikely to happen. I'm more comfortable with a low-ceiling career backup like McCown in there. I bet he throws a couple to our guys.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:27:05 AM(UTC)
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Bears have 14 days to prepare for the Packers.
Packers have 7 days to prepare for the Bears.


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#18 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:29:59 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Bears have 14 days to prepare for the Packers.
Packers have 7 days to prepare for the Bears.




The rest will definitely help them.

It's somewhat unfair to match teams like that. Too bad they can't work it out so teams who play each other have the bye week at the same time. At least we'll get an extra day of rest, since it's a Monday night game.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:07:30 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Bears have 14 days to prepare for the Packers.
Packers have 7 days to prepare for the Bears.




and yet GB will still kick their butts.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:12:45 AM(UTC)
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Not having Briggs will hurt an already poor defense. He created more hell for us on the inside runs often blowing them up for losses. Instinctive and hard to block player who was the leader of the D after Urlacher left.

The only chance they have is if they get multiple strips from our young receivers and RB's and Hester takes a couple back all the way or deep into our territory.

I always dread playing these guys because it's always ugly. They won't do anything at all and then they pick up a ball laying on the ground for a TD and get a big return out of Hester and all of a sudden they are in the game.

We will probably kill them stat wise. Double their first downs and total yards but the score won't show that. Like I say, it's always ugly playing the Bears. They seldom win without three turnovers and a couple of big ST plays thrown in.

That and the fact that no matter how bad they get their ass kicked all game long Bears fans will always come up with one or two plays that would have won the game for them regardless of how fortunate they were to even be in the game at all.
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:57:04 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: warhawk Go to Quoted Post
Not having Briggs will hurt an already poor defense. He created more hell for us on the inside runs often blowing them up for losses. Instinctive and hard to block player who was the leader of the D after Urlacher left.

The only chance they have is if they get multiple strips from our young receivers and RB's and Hester takes a couple back all the way or deep into our territory.

I always dread playing these guys because it's always ugly. They won't do anything at all and then they pick up a ball laying on the ground for a TD and get a big return out of Hester and all of a sudden they are in the game.

We will probably kill them stat wise. Double their first downs and total yards but the score won't show that. Like I say, it's always ugly playing the Bears. They seldom win without three turnovers and a couple of big ST plays thrown in.

That and the fact that no matter how bad they get their ass kicked all game long Bears fans will always come up with one or two plays that would have won the game for them regardless of how fortunate they were to even be in the game at all.


I agree, but I think we'll win it.

It'll be almost like a strike team game, from '87 with all the injuries and whatnot. We got this.
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:11:36 AM(UTC)
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Good Point above about Hester, but hopefully THAT situation has been dealt with after opening kickoff last week. I like the way we didn't shy away from kicking to the guy after his big return. Hester is still good, but he seems to be getting a little bit fragile with age. If he starts out with a half decent return, maybe we sic Mashay on him and slow him down some hahahaha.

About the bye week thing, it probably all evens out over the course of a season or at least seasons. In the Bears case, it did not allow them (apparently) to get any of their hurt stars back.

edit: actually, I guess we did kick away from him part of the time, but it wasn't by squib or short kicks, it was the directionally kicking it through the endzone.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 3:37:30 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
It all depends on your perspective. South of the cheeseland border beating to Bears even if they are hapless is much better than beating the vikies even if that win is for the division title.

The crap I get from Bears fans even from grandmas is ridiculous. A couple of wins a year keeps them quiet. I have not heard a whisper since the Bears began their annual hibernation.


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Been using the Ditka in a Packers jersey picture all week to taunt them.
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Game thoughts.
Is James Jones coming back this week? I know injury disclosure doesn't have to happen until tomorrow being a Monda night game but since he was so close to coming back for the Vikings game, I am guessing he might be a yes? If so, this offense should be perfectly fine with their pass game. The Bears defense is in trouble. I don't think a single one of their linebackers have ever been a starter in the NFL (maybe one of their OLB). Their 2-3 defensive tackles are injured and it has taken a toll on the defensive ends, Peppers and McClellan (who sucks anyways). I expect the Packers to run-run-and run some more on the defense and then hit the play action.
The Bears safeties are also horrible. Matt Bowen was writing about how they are easily lost on the field and thrown off by a QBs pump fake or eye contact. Well, they are facing Rodgers this week so they are in for a treat.

I think the Bears offense can still be scary but it will have its sputtering moments. McCown isn't going to do anything for this team and we all witnessed how frustrated Brandon Marshall became with this defense and its game plan last season. Right now, the Bears biggest threat is Matt Forte breaking the big runs and the Packers run defense has been great against top runningbacks.

It seems anything the Bears have, the Packers are able to cancel out.

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#24 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 3:53:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yerko Go to Quoted Post
Chicago here...
Watched football by myself growing up...pretty much my entire lifetime of watching football due to latching onto the Packers back in the early 90's. Rest of my family and friends are hardcore Bears fans (and very fair-weathered fans) so we have very much different opinions and taste in football, mine being better of course. So, for me...a Bear beat down is the ULTIMATE beat down of the season...especially when it is done twice.

Been using the Ditka in a Packers jersey picture all week to taunt them.
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Game thoughts.
Is James Jones coming back this week? I know injury disclosure doesn't have to happen until tomorrow being a Monda night game but since he was so close to coming back for the Vikings game, I am guessing he might be a yes? If so, this offense should be perfectly fine with their pass game. The Bears defense is in trouble. I don't think a single one of their linebackers have ever been a starter in the NFL (maybe one of their OLB). Their 2-3 defensive tackles are injured and it has taken a toll on the defensive ends, Peppers and McClellan (who sucks anyways). I expect the Packers to run-run-and run some more on the defense and then hit the play action.
The Bears safeties are also horrible. Matt Bowen was writing about how they are easily lost on the field and thrown off by a QBs pump fake or eye contact. Well, they are facing Rodgers this week so they are in for a treat.

I think the Bears offense can still be scary but it will have its sputtering moments. McCown isn't going to do anything for this team and we all witnessed how frustrated Brandon Marshall became with this defense and its game plan last season. Right now, the Bears biggest threat is Matt Forte breaking the big runs and the Packers run defense has been great against top runningbacks.

It seems anything the Bears have, the Packers are able to cancel out.

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#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:17:54 PM(UTC)
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