Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
2 Pages12>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline dyeah_gb  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:53:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/22/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 49
Applause Received: 55
I was happy to jump on the "Campen sucks" bandwagon a few years back. This years performance so far indicates some kudos are in order maybe. Here is a list of my rambling train of thought:

1. The line has played pretty well even with the major starter injuries before the season.

2. We all recognize that a certain number of sacks in previous years under Rodgers were due to holding on to the ball too long rather than much to do with the line. This year, I am loving the quicker release on the pass.


3. Grant played with us under the zone blocking scheme and that really appears as a busted experiment. I haven't seen much discussion on this. Bringing in Lacy indicates we are going full tilt towards the traditional power running game.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:16:57 PM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,325
Applause Received: 3,593
Broke clock is right twice a day.
Offline wpr  
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:20:21 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 3,506
Applause Received: 1,765
I wasn't all the way in the I hate Campen camp like i am not all the way into the give him a free pass camp.

The better results on the line are as you point out Rodgers quicker release and having a stud RB who keeps moving after first contact.
User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:02:09 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2014Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2015

United States
Joined: 3/4/2013(UTC)
Location: Texas
Applause Given: 670
Applause Received: 489
I don't think Campen was necessarily the problem before, and I don't things are near as good as they should be now. The problem as I see it is mediocre personnel.

Aaron Rodgers makes up for a large part of the problem by moving so well, passing so well on the move, and running as needed. However, he virtually never gets the time to throw that most QBs get most of the time. The running game is a little bit better now because of Rodgers' passing and to some extent Lacy's ability, but we still can't just line up and run except when the opponent's D is thinking pass.

Maybe getting Bulaga and Sherrod back healthy will help, I don't know, but the fact is, our O Line STILL is far from the quality it ought to be.
thanks Post received 2 applause.
DakotaT on 10/31/2013(UTC), Wade on 11/1/2013(UTC)
Offline DakotaT  
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:16:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 963
Applause Received: 1,960
Our O'line is still a work in progress. To think that anybody not named Sitton can't be upgraded is foolishness. They are still a work in progress. They are playing a lot better than their pedestrian draft status would suggest they should be. For this, Campen should be applauded. Ted on the other might take some criticism - even if injuries aren't his fault.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
Wade on 11/1/2013(UTC)
Offline buckeyepackfan  
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:34:48 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2012Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2014

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: Lima, Ohio
Applause Given: 705
Applause Received: 725
http://espn.go.com/nfl/s...sort/rushingYardsPerGame

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/s...t/sacks/position/defense

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/s...g/sort/quarterbackRating

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]
Offline DakotaT  
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:05:47 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

United States
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 963
Applause Received: 1,960
Buckeye, why are you always laughing at yourself.

Making an argument out of stats can lead to somebody calling you an idiot. Example - 2011 Packers, whose stats were off the charts, yet got beaten as if they were little girls in their own house by a bully that laughed at their stats.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
Zero2Cool on 11/1/2013(UTC)
Offline buckeyepackfan  
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:17:26 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2012Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2014

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: Lima, Ohio
Applause Given: 705
Applause Received: 725
DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
Buckeye, why are you always laughing at yourself.

Making an argument out of stats can lead to somebody calling you an idiot. Example - 2011 Packers, whose stats were off the charts, yet got beaten as if they were little girls in their own house by a bully that laughed at their stats.


2011 The Packers had the #32 rated defense in the league, it finally caught up to them in the playoffs.

Here's a FACT for you , that YOU will never understand.

All the individual talent in the world doesn't do a TEAM a damn bit of good, especially when it comes to an Offensive line.

Until you understand the word "chemistry" as applied to an NFL team, you will never get it, will never be satisfied, and will always be the the one making "idiotic" statements when it comes to your knowledge of football.

Offline nerdmann  
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:56:40 PM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 5,441
Applause Received: 1,254
dyeah_gb said: Go to Quoted Post
I was happy to jump on the Campen bandwagon sucks a few years back. This years performance so far indicates some kudos are in order maybe. Here is a list of my rambling train of thought:

1. The line has played pretty well even with the major starter injuries before the season.

2. We all recognize that a certain number of sacks in previous years under Rodgers were due to holding on to the ball too long rather than much to do with the line. This year, I am loving the quicker release on the pass.

3. Grant played with us under the zone blocking scheme and that really appears as a busted experiment. I haven't seen much discussion on this. Bringing in Lacy indicates we are going full tilt towards the traditional power running game.


The zone blocking bullshit has always sucked. The Broncos ran it well in the 90s, but it just flat out totally sucks shit here.

Earlier, Mike was asking Ted to get "smaller, quicker" offensive linemen. Remember Tony Moll? Glorified TEs. That was a total fiasco.

Nowadays, Ted has been allowed to get "bigger, stronger" guys.

Suddenly, we've got guys who can play. Go figure.

EDIT: Oh yeah, Campen. LOL. As far as I'm concerned none of this is due to him. But I don't give him credit for developing these guys. He's like Slocum, benefitting from Ted getting him good players.

I do blame him for Tretter breaking his ankle in the first Practice of his pro career, though.

As for Grant, it doesn't matter what type of system you run, if your RBs keeps running up the back of his blockers.
Online gbguy20  
#10 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 12:49:44 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 8/28/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 418
Applause Received: 456
hasn't mccarthy been working with the oline a lot more than in previous years?
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (4h): NFL just needs more rules and intrusive Judging and Jury and Sentencing and it'll be w!n!
wpr (5h): I understand Pack93z. Unfortunately the good ol days are gone.
Zero2Cool (5h): Bahahaha
Zero2Cool (5h): It's hard for me to get amped when I'm so much more wise than the others here. *sigh*
Pack93z (5h): football is still in my blood... just not the current NFL product.
Pack93z (5h): Trying to get into TC mode and get amped for the season... alas, it just isn't the same passion I once had for the NFL product.. football is
Zero2Cool (28-Jul): I have a habit of hitting tab then space bar lol
Pack93z (28-Jul): .... and yes, that was a retyped message cause the user hit the enter key.. lol
Pack93z (28-Jul): It really isn't that big of a deal, more of a user problem that can't remember to stop and click in place of hitting a key... and yes, this
Zero2Cool (28-Jul): And it also won't do a full page refresh either.
Zero2Cool (28-Jul): I have to toss in an UpdatePanel and dedicate Enter to it for submission, then it will work.
Zero2Cool (28-Jul): nerdmann went bonkers with creating topics so we had to slow him down a tad lol
Pack93z (28-Jul): If I gotta field questions all week from this user base at work... going to share the "love".
Pack93z (28-Jul): There... that should miff Zero for a couple of seconds... ;)
Pack93z (28-Jul): Also.. when posting in the fan shout... why can't I hit the enter key to post a message?
Pack93z (28-Jul): What is this 5 minute wait cycle to create articles from the headlines... can't I spam them like hotcakes?
Mucky Tundra (27-Jul): haha
Zero2Cool (27-Jul): Crap, another meeting! Ugh!
Zero2Cool (27-Jul): Check in already! We waiting on YOU!!!
Pack93z (27-Jul): YES :)
Pack93z (27-Jul): --- KEVIN ----
Mucky Tundra (27-Jul): of the Dead?
Zero2Cool (27-Jul): --- SHAWN ---
Cheesey (25-Jul): Me neither. He did virtually nothing after he left the Packers.
Zero2Cool (25-Jul): WR Greg Jennings retires. I think I should be surprised, but I'm not.
Cheesey (23-Jul): It's sad, he was young.
wpr (22-Jul): Sorry to hear about Dennis passing away.
Zero2Cool (22-Jul): Hopefully people respect his passing without trying to make jokes.
Zero2Cool (22-Jul): Damn, Dennis Green passed away.
Zero2Cool (22-Jul): Bahahahah
Smokey (16-Jul): Playing 2016 Fantasy Football ? NO ? Contact me to join the Tailgaters Fantasy Football League !
wpr (15-Jul): Happy birthday since69
Zero2Cool (15-Jul): Whoa!Today's Birthdays: Since69 (51)
Zero2Cool (15-Jul): No sir. But at work we had our A/C go out, not fun lol
Smokey (14-Jul): Did recent bad weather affect you Zero ? ie: loss of electricity ?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

Road To Super Bowl LI
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 12:00 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
14m / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

17m / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

29m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DarkaneRules

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / musccy

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DakotaT

23h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

23h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

28-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool


Packers Headlines