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Offline steveishere  
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:09:31 AM(UTC)
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wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
I have no problem with resigning current players. It is a good move on Ted's part to do so.


My point is he doesn't get as much credit for those moves as people would give him if they were players with different names even though the signings are essentially the same thing. James Jones was an unrestricted on the open market Free Agent just like Woodson and Pickett were.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:40:13 AM(UTC)
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My point is he doesn't get as much credit for those moves as people would give him if they were players with different names even though the signings are essentially the same thing. James Jones was an unrestricted on the open market Free Agent just like Woodson and Pickett were.


I know what you are saying and I try to give him credit for those kinds of moves. Letting James hit the market and then resigning him afterward saved money. Aaron and CM3 now fall into the class of current players that he resigned. Great moves. To sign Rodgers for the big bucks and not bust the cap was amazing.


I like the home grown talent. I actually prefer it. I have said it a lot of times I don't mind it if Ted doesn't get a mega FA ever. I don't need him to pick up a high profile player even at a reasonable cost each and every year but I have to wonder if the team would be a little better if he got a Pickett like player every 3 years or so. A little more veteran leadership to meld with the youngsters. Having only 3 out of 53 players is a bit extreme in the other direction.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:00:18 AM(UTC)
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I know what you are saying and I try to give him credit for those kinds of moves. Letting James hit the market and then resigning him afterward saved money. Aaron and CM3 now fall into the class of current players that he resigned. Great moves. To sign Rodgers for the big bucks and not bust the cap was amazing.


I like the home grown talent. I actually prefer it. I have said it a lot of times I don't mind it if Ted doesn't get a mega FA ever. I don't need him to pick up a high profile player even at a reasonable cost each and every year but I have to wonder if the team would be a little better if he got a Pickett like player every 3 years or so. A little more veteran leadership to meld with the youngsters. Having only 3 out of 53 players is a bit extreme in the other direction.


I don't mind seeing FAs or anything if they are worth it but keeping some of our own vets to me is much better than getting someone elses. Ours already know our coaches/systems.

The way I look at FA is that a majority of those guys no matter what you pay them end up being average players for at least some of their contract. Good players to fill a short term hole maybe but nothing worth any significant investment. Maybe it's just my perception but I feel like the only really good looking (youngish/productive/not overpriced) FAs lately have been 4-3 lineman. I can't think of too many 3-4 or secondary players or offensive players and thinking man what a good deal.

The best thing we could have done in FA this last offseason looks like possibly getting a S but I think most of those FAs have been disappointing so in hindsight it doesn't seem too bad (to me anyways). I get excited whenever we do sign FAs and it doesn't make me mad but I don't really care if we don't. Funny thing though, I was a bit disappointed when we didn't land Steven Jackson lol.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:08:46 AM(UTC)
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I don't mind seeing FAs or anything if they are worth it but keeping some of our own vets to me is much better than getting someone elses. Ours already know our coaches/systems.

The way I look at FA is that a majority of those guys no matter what you pay them end up being average players for at least some of their contract. Good players to fill a short term hole maybe but nothing worth any significant investment. Maybe it's just my perception but I feel like the only really good looking (youngish/productive/not overpriced) FAs lately have been 4-3 lineman. I can't think of too many 3-4 or secondary players or offensive players and thinking man what a good deal.

The best thing we could have done in FA this last offseason looks like possibly getting a S but I think most of those FAs have been disappointing so in hindsight it doesn't seem too bad (to me anyways). I get excited whenever we do sign FAs and it doesn't make me mad but I don't really care if we don't. Funny thing though, I was a bit disappointed when we didn't land Steven Jackson lol.


Not every year will have a player that is worth while. That is why I was saying once every 3 years or so. I know there was a lot of hope and excitement over Jackson but not from me. That GB didn't land him was fine. I was slightly disappointed that GB didn't get Lynch a few years ago. But I realize there is not much you can do when the other team doesn't like your offer or someone else out bids you.
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Not every year will have a player that is worth while. That is why I was saying once every 3 years or so. I know there was a lot of hope and excitement over Jackson but not from me. That GB didn't land him was fine. I was slightly disappointed that GB didn't get Lynch a few years ago. But I realize there is not much you can do when the other team doesn't like your offer or someone else out bids you.


Haha the Lynch disappointment didn't last long after the way that season played out [laughing]
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#16 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:17:04 AM(UTC)
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I defended Ted Thompson 7 or so years ago when a lot of people were down on him, then when I came to this forum, I was surprised to find the rock-ribbed loyalty to him. The truth is, he has done a lot of things right, and fallen short in a few other areas.

I wholeheartedly agree with the not signing of big name free agents from other teams except for the few exceptions noted. I also strongly agree with the theme of the article: cutting ties when that was needed - he, of course, did a good job of knowing when to open up the treasury too - with Rodgers and Matthews and a few other lesser cases. There will be some really interesting decisions this off-season too - Shields has been great, but the question becomes "how high is up?". If he decides to go for the max, it could take too much money to sign him - and we are, of course, pretty loaded now at Corner. Raji is one guy I really really really hope Ted Thompson does not re-sign - unless the cost is extremely lower than it probably would be. Quality-wise, Raji reminds me of Darryn College - as the article said, mediocre. Finley tops them all as a question mark. Assuming he comes back in a few weeks and resumes playing the way he did before the injury, what then? It will take a helluva lot of money, and even though he showed new-found maturity, and the hands problem seemed to be mostly a thing of the past, both of those things could come up again, not to mention any potential recurrence of the neck thing. I wouldn't be surprised if Ted Thompson does re-sign Finley, but for a lot less than it might have been because other teams are scared off by his situation - either that or there is some kind of wording in the contract to protect the Packers, certainly in the case of the neck.

Obviously Ted Thompson has done great in the lower half of the draft and UDFAs. My gripe, if it even is that, is the high end - but you always have to say "other than Rodgers, Matthews, and maybe now Lacy". Also, bad luck of injuries has been a factor. Still, as I have said, Aaron Rodgers cures a lot of ills. IMO, he - Rodgers - makes the Packers the top 5 or top 3 or absolutely top team that they are, and heaven help us if he went down - I really see weakness in almost every area other than QB. Hopefully we will never have to test that theory - that Ted Thompson has not put together a very good team without Rodgers, but to me, THAT is the bottom line. However, we really do have Aaron Rodgers - Thompson gets the credit - along with the 20 or so teams who did not draft him hahahaha, so let's just enjoy the ride.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:40:40 AM(UTC)
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Haha the Lynch disappointment didn't last long after the way that season played out [laughing]


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#18 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:57:25 PM(UTC)
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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
A lot of people don't like to count FA like James Jones and Brad Jones but if we had say let James Jones walk that year and Ted signed some other teams WR who came in and led the NFL in TDs for us we would all be like WOOOO WHAT A GREAT FA SIGNING SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!


I said this same thing on the CBS boards a few years ago and at least a half a dozen people responded with "signing your own guys doesn't count" I asked why and explained, like you said in another post, that they were on the open market just like everyone else and a couple responded with " well yeah, maybe but it still doesn't count. I say WHY THE HELL NOT

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Datone Jones, while good, looks to be suffering some of the same things Daniels did last season as a rookie. I suspect both Daniels and Jones will be a major force next season, as they further develop.


I agree. Some people seem to think that just because a player is a first round draft choice that he should be a game changer right away. That may be such a realistic expectation for a top 10 guy but Jones was what 26th. You have to give guys a chance to develop and adjust. Not everyone can step in and be a star from day one.

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I have never been a fan of Ted Thompson and I never will be, but I have to hand it to him for keeping the Green Bay Packers in the upper echelon of the NFL year after year.


I'm just curious as to why you are not a fan. I would think that when a GM who is keeping the Green Bay Packers in the upper echelon of the NFL year after year what is not to be a fan of. I'm also wondering why you never will be a fan. That sounds like something personal. I'm not knocking you for your opinion. Its just that it kind of like saying "I'm not a fan of $100.00 bills and I never will be but they are good for spending"
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#19 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:13:57 PM(UTC)
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I'm just curious as to why you are not a fan. I would think that when a GM who is keeping the Green Bay Packers in the upper echelon of the NFL year after year what is not to be a fan of. I'm also wondering why you never will be a fan. That sounds like something personal. I'm not knocking you for your opinion. Its just that it kind of like saying "I'm not a fan of $100.00 bills and I never will be but they are good for spending"



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#20 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 4:51:46 AM(UTC)
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Believe it or not Erik Walden was a great signing in 2010. Even Howard Green was a great addition in 10'.

I think Ted thrives when he brings in guys during the year. Ala Dujaun Harris, despite his injury this year, he was our best back last year. No offense to Alex Green.

Now I don't know if it's a cap thing or not but other teams can put together great drafts, and they still bring in great free agents.

Ted will bring in free agents then let them go, and he'll stick with his draft picks till the end unless they absolutely can't compete.

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