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Offline nerdmann  
#26 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 4:36:55 PM(UTC)
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It's a team sport, bitches! lol
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#27 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 5:41:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
You're contradicting yourself.

We can take Seneca Wallace's past record and apply it to the future, but not take the historical records of teams in general? Remember, Wallace has been on some sh!t sucking teams. Take his record against the spread as a better indicator than his pure win/loss record.

And remember, in the playoffs, we'll have alot of these guys back. James Jones, Randall Cobb, Jermicheal Finley.

And no, the Packers DON'T run a pure WCO. They run a run and shoot vertical offense. WITH RODGERS. That's my point. We see what they're being forced to do now, with all these guys injured: adhere to fundamentals.

That's what they'd be doing with Seneca. They'd be helping him out with high percentage plays. They wouldn't be expecting him to hold the ball 8 seconds and take shots down the field.


Nerd it is not the same thing so I am not contradicting myself. I am saying it doesn't matter if Bart & co won two games. They are too old and can't help the team. GB could have won 50 championships in the past and if none of the players are on this team it doesn't mean squat.

All that matters is can this team, the current 2013 team, win without Aaron. And by win I don't mean 1 or 2 games in the regular season. I mean the championship. The answer is no. The current team doesn't have a number of key players. Some of them may come back. Some of them won't. Do you know how good they will be? Of course not.

On the other hand what Wallace did in the past does matter. He showed that he can not win when he didn't have an abundance of supporting help. The spread is what doesn't matter. It don't mean anything if a bunch of gamblers thought his team would lose by 20 and they only lost by 18. His 81% QB rating does matter. As I already said he is not a terrible QB. But to win he would need everyone. And everyone healthy.

In the long run none of this matters. Aaron is not going down.
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#28 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 7:45:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post

In the long run none of this matters. Aaron is not going down.


Just Ow. I hated to see this topic in the first place - I belong to the school of the unmentionable (it's a superstition). You never talk about a no-hitter until it's done. You never talk about a shutout until there are no goals scored. AND you sure as fark never talk about a possible injury situation that hasn't happened until it hasn't happened.

What a sad sinking feeling today. I am not sure Seneca Wallace is a long-term answer. Matt Flynn is available again, assuming losing his job 3 times in the last 14 months hasn't ruined his head. Just watching this year go down the crapper is painful.
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#29 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 8:18:55 PM(UTC)
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The writer of this article should be shot.
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#30 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 9:44:33 PM(UTC)
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This thread needs to go to hell
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Offline nerdmann  
#31 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 9:47:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: schroeder84 Go to Quoted Post
Just Ow. I hated to see this topic in the first place - I belong to the school of the unmentionable (it's a superstition). You never talk about a no-hitter until it's done. You never talk about a shutout until there are no goals scored. AND you sure as fark never talk about a possible injury situation that hasn't happened until it hasn't happened.

What a sad sinking feeling today. I am not sure Seneca Wallace is a long-term answer. Matt Flynn is available again, assuming losing his job 3 times in the last 14 months hasn't ruined his head. Just watching this year go down the crapper is painful.


Flynn's elbow injury is the reason he didn't beat out Russell last year in Seattle, and the reason he has washed out with the Raiders and now the Bills.
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#32 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 9:48:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. Go to Quoted Post
The writer of this article should be shot.


Hope he doesn't have a dog.
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#33 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 10:04:52 PM(UTC)
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I see all the Menards in Wisconsin just put pitchforks, torches, tar, feathers, and rails on sale. Boob McGinn, it may be time to head for the flatlands.

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#34 Posted : Monday, November 4, 2013 10:19:45 PM(UTC)
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Fuck McGinn. That is all.
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Offline wpr  
#35 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:57:00 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Hope he doesn't have a dog.


hey nerdmann I hope you know I was just kidding when I said I hate you in the chat last night.
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Offline wpr  
#36 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 5:01:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: schroeder84 Go to Quoted Post
Just Ow. I hated to see this topic in the first place - I belong to the school of the unmentionable (it's a superstition). You never talk about a no-hitter until it's done. You never talk about a shutout until there are no goals scored. AND you sure as fark never talk about a possible injury situation that hasn't happened until it hasn't happened.

What a sad sinking feeling today. I am not sure Seneca Wallace is a long-term answer. Matt Flynn is available again, assuming losing his job 3 times in the last 14 months hasn't ruined his head. Just watching this year go down the crapper is painful.


Yeah my bad for posting it here. When I saw the story I thought it was stupid to suggest Rodgers was replaceable.

In 2010 we have the thread to rank the players 1-10 we thought would hurt GB the most if they were inured.

I only listed Aaron. All 10 times. There is a reason he is paid so much. He is irreplaceable.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:33:35 AM(UTC)
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Talk about the ultimate jinx. I like Bob McGinn, but why? Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Because of that article, it was all over sports radio, and I have no doubts Rodgers had heard about it prior to the game. Did it possibly affect him? Unbelievable. Ouch.
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#38 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:45:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
hey nerdmann I hope you know I was just kidding when I said I hate you in the chat last night.


lol I love you man.
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#39 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:53:35 AM(UTC)
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Signing on to say- I hate you Bob McGinn, I hate you!
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#40 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:56:50 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Talk about the ultimate jinx. I like Bob McGinn, but why? Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Because of that article, it was all over sports radio, and I have no doubts Rodgers had heard about it prior to the game. Did it possibly affect him? Unbelievable. Ouch.


Hope you are joking lol that makes absolutely 0 sense.
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#41 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:21:05 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
Hope you are joking lol that makes absolutely 0 sense.


Is there a problem? You seem to go well out of your way to throw your contradictory snipe comments into just about anything I say.

???
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#42 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:24:09 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Is there a problem? You seem to go well out of your way to throw your contradictory snipe comments into just about anything I say.

???


I'm not going out of my way to think a Bob McGinn article possibly had something to do with Rodgers being hurt is ridiculous. I don't care who wrote it, that makes 0 sense. Don't worry about me. If you think what you said does indeed make sense then defend your statement, don't get personal.
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#43 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:37:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
I'm not going out of my way to think a Bob McGinn article possibly had something to do with Rodgers being hurt is ridiculous. I don't care who wrote it, that makes 0 sense. Don't worry about me. If you think what you said does indeed make sense then defend your statement, don't get personal.


You made it personal bud. I'm entitled to my opinions. I merely posed the question. You don't like it? TFB. This is a forum to talk about football and the Packers. I respect that and other posters here and their questions and opinions, even when they differ from my own. You, clearly, do not.
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#44 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:42:38 AM(UTC)
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Across the NFL, quarterbacks have gone down and teams have had to turn to their backups. The Bears won with theirs in Green Bay Monday night. The Packers' next opponent, the Philadelphia Eagles, have played with three quarterbacks this season.
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#45 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:43:55 AM(UTC)
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I'm not superstitious at all but this is just damn creepy. He even writes in the article "if Rodgers were to go down early Monday night against the Bears."

Just a creepy coincidence. I finally read the article (why not? It came true) and I see what he is trying to say but to use this position as his centerpiece for the article was just dumb. That just goes to show that he doesn't realize how important Rodgers is to the success of this entire team.

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#46 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:45:50 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
You made it personal bud. I'm entitled to my opinions. I merely posed the question. You don't like it? TFB. This is a forum to talk about football and the Packers. I respect that and other posters here and their questions and opinions, even when they differ from my own. You, clearly, do not.


No I didn't. I don't like what you said because it doesn't make sense not because of who wrote it. You are reacting to what I said because of who wrote it (me). I DGAF who writes what on here if you make a ridiculous suggestion i'll try and get you to explain it. If you can't or won't try to explain it i'll chalk it up to talking out your ass and move on to the next thing.
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#47 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:48:33 AM(UTC)
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Boys, get back on topic or I'll spank you both.
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#48 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:50:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
I'm not going out of my way to think a Bob McGinn article possibly had something to do with Rodgers being hurt is ridiculous. I don't care who wrote it, that makes 0 sense. Don't worry about me. If you think what you said does indeed make sense then defend your statement, don't get personal.


But if he didn't knock on wood after he printed it maybe it did have something to do with it.

I respect your right to have your opinion but that doesn't mean I agree with it or respect you for having it.
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#49 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:32:19 AM(UTC)
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My point in asking if McGinn's article and all the hoopla that ensued regarding this prior to the game had an adverse effect on Rodgers, is that he has reacted to far lesser cutting comments in the past. Bob McGinn posing the notion that the Packers would be fine without Rodgers to the national media prior to one of our biggest rivalry games of the season is something I can see sticking in the Rodgers psyche. Quite easily. I'm sure he did not take that well. Maybe it did effect him in some way. Maybe not.

I happen to think there is a mental edge to taking the field and making plays, and that distractions like that can have their effect on players. Sometimes that mental edge protects a player. He might take a fall differently. He might remember not to expose himself to injury in one way or another, depending on the player and point of contact. Lose that mental edge or become distracted, and maybe a player exposes himself to potential injury where they otherwise wouldn't.

We've all seen Aaron Rodgers take negative comments personally, and how he has handled some of those situations. The notion that he might have taken McGinn's comments personally is far from preposterous.
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#50 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:11:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
terrible article idea, i hope the writer knocked on wood.


this guy was on to something
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