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steveishere  
#41 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 8:50:10 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
It seems to me that Mike and Aaron are obsessed with breaking Favre's records. They want YARDS. They want chunks of yards, and they want to score fast, so they have more opportunities to get more yards.

They've been playing more fundamentally sound of late, though.


That doesn't really explain why the last few years Aaron has only been 14th 16th and 10th in pass attempts.
steveishere  
#42 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:02:37 PM(UTC)
How about this compared to "dink and dunkers" Tom Brady and Drew Brees last year

Passes thrown 10 or less yards from the line of scrimmage:

Drew Brees 67%
Aaron Rodgers 68.5%
Tom Brady 69%

The Packers under McCarthy/Rodgers throw most of their passes short they also throw a fair amount of deep passes but it looks like they throw deep more often because Rodgers is so efficient at it. Relatively speaking when he goes deep Rodgers rarely misses.

It isn't "stat-whoring" it's called "winning"
wpr  
#43 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:28:51 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Well, he could stop passing up open guys underneath in order to throw deep. In doing so, he could stop holding the ball for 8 seconds.

He could develop a willingness to throw Hail Marys at the end of the half, risking an INT on his stat sheet. sh!t like that.


no because throwing deep when the play isn't open would be stat whoring. By your own admission Aaron is not a stat whore.
nerdmann  
#44 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 9:31:14 AM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
I tried to make you see what a dumbass statement you are making in stat-whoring, but of course YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE HARD NUMBERS.

Glad I don't live in your world.

Really has to be a scary place at times.


Your attempt really only supported my own position.

So yeah, I'll take the hard numbers. lol
nerdmann  
#45 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 9:32:36 AM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
That doesn't really explain why the last few years Aaron has only been 14th 16th and 10th in pass attempts.


We're a good team, so we're not in a position of having to pass in order to try to come back late in games.

And anyway, Aaron's not really known for his comebacks, is he? lol
nerdmann  
#46 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 9:34:04 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
no because throwing deep when the play isn't open would be stat whoring. By your own admission Aaron is not a stat whore.


He'll throw the ball up, just not when it's an end of half situation.
steveishere  
#47 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 9:57:31 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
We're a good team, so we're not in a position of having to pass in order to try to come back late in games.

And anyway, Aaron's not really known for his comebacks, is he? lol


I feel like the best opportunity to "stat whore" would be if you had a big lead late in the game. You can rack up a ton of yards/points with no risk to winning or losing the game. Doesn't make sense for them to pass up that opportunity.
nerdmann  
#48 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 10:14:20 AM(UTC)
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I feel like the best opportunity to "stat whore" would be if you had a big lead late in the game. You can rack up a ton of yards/points with no risk to winning or losing the game. Doesn't make sense for them to pass up that opportunity.


I think they tend to do it more earlier in the season. Later in the season they do focus more on playoff contention.
steveishere  
#49 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 11:47:39 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
I think they tend to do it more earlier in the season. Later in the season they do focus more on playoff contention.


What does that even mean? Rodgers pass attempts are typically low for a franchise QB and you say it's because he doesn't pass much late in games which is a prime opportunity to rack up stats. Your argument doesn't hold water. Are you going to give us anything that backs up what you think or just keep spewing this nonsense that has no factual basis?

With how much you act like this is happening you'd think it would be a fairly easy thing for you to point out and prove but so far you've got NOTHING. Come on man show us all of this stat whoring that's going on.
play2win  
#50 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 11:54:33 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post


Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!!!
steveishere  
#51 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 11:56:26 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
He'll throw the ball up, just not when it's an end of half situation.


when did this happen?
mi_keys  
#52 Posted : Friday, November 8, 2013 12:57:44 PM(UTC)
Nerd is our resident Skip Bayless... and you've all taken the bait.
buckeyepackfan  
#53 Posted : Saturday, November 9, 2013 3:16:09 PM(UTC)
mi_keys said: Go to Quoted Post
Nerd is our resident Skip Bayless... and you've all taken the bait.


You are so right, just spit out the bait, used the ignore button.

I'M FREE.....I'M FREE!!!!!!!!

[laughing] [laughing] [laughing]
nerdmann  
#54 Posted : Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:29:16 AM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
when did this happen?


Those two TDs he threw to Jordy a couple weeks ago zinged right pass the defender's ear whole. That's one example.

Everyone knows Aaron will pass up guys who are open underneath to throw deep. To wait and SEE if someone will come open deep.
steveishere  
#55 Posted : Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:24:38 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Those two TDs he threw to Jordy a couple weeks ago zinged right pass the defender's ear whole. That's one example.

Everyone knows Aaron will pass up guys who are open underneath to throw deep. To wait and SEE if someone will come open deep.


Those were not an end of half situation and besides throwing the ball near a defender when he's facing the WR isn't even close to "throwing the ball up". Those are safe throws because the defender doesn't see the ball coming.
nerdmann  
#56 Posted : Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:25:38 AM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
Those were not an end of half situation and besides throwing the ball near a defender when he's facing the WR isn't even close to "throwing the ball up". Those are safe throws because the defender doesn't see the ball coming.


I wouldn't say they're "safe," but they worked.

Ever since about 2011, Aaron has been throwing jump balls down the field, mainly to Jordy. There were even articles about it at the time. He said he was going to start taking those shots once in awhile.
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