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Online DarkaneRules  
#11 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:12:14 PM(UTC)
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BJ Raji - YES. Probably a shock to people who hear how much I knock the guy. I know he has been up and down and mostly down lately but gosh I just don't see the team letting him go. Put him back to strictly nose guard in base and keep him out of nickel for most situations.

James Jones - YES. He is not like Jennings. Doesn't have #1 receiver mentality.

Sam Shields - YESYESYES. A thousand times yes.

Jermichael Finley - MAYBE. But who knows if this will be a Nick Collins situation.

Ryan Pickett - MAYBE. He is our Vince Wilfork. If you can get by with near vet minimum.

John Kuhn - YES. I think they just love the guy in our organization. He is their pride and joy.

James Starks - YES. Is Hill a long term player or just a reserve? Starks is our primary backup. Health will be determining factor.

Andrew Quarless - NO. I really like the guy but has other talent coming in behind him, which like Crabtree could make him expendable.

Marshall Newhouse - NO. Be gone sir.

EDS - MAYBE. A shock perhaps, but will rely on availability due to cap and the potential emergence of Tretter, and the health of GVR.

Mike Neal - YES. A swing LB / DL!? Yes please.

Johnny Jolly - YES. Vet minimum hopefully

CJ Wilson - NO. Don't see him making cut.

Rob Francois - MAYBE
Jamari Lattimore - MAYBE
One of those two. Availability from here to next off-season the factor. I like them both but the injuries are a problem.

MD Jennings - MAYBE. Backup player depending on next year's draft and Richardson's development.

Seneca Wallace - NO
Matt Flynn - NO
Prep Tolzien next off-season as primary backup.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:07:21 PM(UTC)
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I was gonna say until I read the last post, I was pleased that NOBODY wanted to keep B.J. Raji. There was an old book about early compact cars, "Unsafe at Any Speed"; I would say about Raji, "don't re-sign him at any price". The D-Line will be just fine with Daniels, D. Jones, Jolly, maybe Neal back there, outside chance of Wilson, maybe Boyd, and 1 or 2 draft picks between rounds 1 and 4. Maybe even a decent quality free agent, since we are probably letting so many of our own go.

I concur with most of the posts - Shields is a must, Lattimore for sure, I make Quarless a must also. I think James Jones gets almost G. Jennings money somewhere else. Starks will be nice at the right price. I prefer Tolzien over Flynn.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:46:24 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
I was gonna say until I read the last post, I was pleased that NOBODY wanted to keep B.J. Raji. There was an old book about early compact cars, "Unsafe at Any Speed"; I would say about Raji, "don't re-sign him at any price". The D-Line will be just fine with Daniels, D. Jones, Jolly, maybe Neal back there, outside chance of Wilson, maybe Boyd, and 1 or 2 draft picks between rounds 1 and 4. Maybe even a decent quality free agent, since we are probably letting so many of our own go.

I concur with most of the posts - Shields is a must, Lattimore for sure, I make Quarless a must also. I think James Jones gets almost G. Jennings money somewhere else. Starks will be nice at the right price. I prefer Tolzien over Flynn.


Texas I think this is the first time a post here has made me look into potentially changing my mind.

I am putting my Yes on BJ Raji to a No.

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That article reminded me about an interview I listened to with BJ Raji before the draft. He said he wanted to play in a 4-3 and now I believe that he has certainly lost the desire to play in a 3-4.

I was, however, not aware that he declined Vince Wilfork type money. That is telling. He doesn't want to be our Vince Wilfork. I thought he did, but that balk will not favor him on our side and perhaps that was his intention all along...
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#14 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:21:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules Go to Quoted Post
Texas I think this is the first time a post here has made me look into potentially changing my mind.

I am putting my Yes on BJ Raji to a No.

exploring-the-future-of-packers-dl-bj-raji-during-a-contract-year

That article reminded me about an interview I listened to with BJ Raji before the draft. He said he wanted to play in a 4-3 and now I believe that he has certainly lost the desire to play in a 3-4.

I was, however, not aware that he declined Vince Wilfork type money. That is telling. He doesn't want to be our Vince Wilfork. I thought he did, but that balk will not favor him on our side and perhaps that was his intention all along...


hahahahaha You would be well advised to do that more often.

If Raji was even close to a Vince Wilfork type player, I wouldn't mind seeing him paid like that. I had such high hopes for Raji when we drafted him ......
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#15 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:40:17 PM(UTC)
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BJ Raji-He might not get much of an offer, given his performance this year. You can't give him incentives, because his position doesn't call for generating stats. However, if you do bring him back, it has to be at NT.

Jermichael Finley-Stick a fork in him, he's done. Oh, what could have been!

Ryan Pickett-Possible 1 year deal. I feel like he's breaking down. Age might be catching up to him.

James Jones-Yeah, bring him back. Dude is a man.

John Kuhn-Too old for Ted. He's only still here, because of the rookies at RB. He's adequate at pass pro.

Sam Shields-Dude's gonna get paid. But to be here, he may have to give up his agent. Gonna be hard to sign him.

Andrew Quarless-He stepped up last week. If he shows he can do that regularly, he can up his value. Solid veteran.

Marshall Newhouse-Newhouse can play LT, but not RT. This is a team that likes versatility. Especially on the Oline. He might get a chance to make the team again, but he's not gonna break the bank.

EDS-He's earned a roster spot, but he'll have to re-earn the starter gig.

Mike Neal-Give him incentives based on # of sacks.

Rob Francois-He can cover. lol. Then again, we've got depth in the middle. Could lose out based on numbers.

Johnny Jolly-He's got another couple years in him. Good veteran influence on the field.

James Starks-I bring him back. It seems to me that the Packers coaches have never really liked him. He's F'd up in pass pro at times. Gets injured alot, although he's been pretty healthy this year. I like him as a utility back. Jack of all trades, master of none, but he's on a level above a guy like Ryan Grant. Not as good as Lacey though. Or Franklin, imo.

CJ Wilson-Good depth. Might need him.

Jamari Lattimore-Could push to start on the inside.

MD Jennings-Gone.

Seneca Wallace-Gone. Punked out when we needed him, like a bitch.

Matt Flynn-Gets a chance to be Aaron's career backup. Might still want a chance to start, though. He'll have to beat out Tolzien.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:02:18 PM(UTC)
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Seneca Wallace-Gone. Punked out when we needed him, like a bitch.



Ok, how exactly is not playing with a torn abductor tendon being a bitch?

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#17 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:26:12 PM(UTC)
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Ok, how exactly is not playing with a torn abductor tendon being a bitch?



Don't go there, it's a dark, scary, place!!!! Just accept and move on.

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#18 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:34:51 PM(UTC)
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The thing with Raji is not performance but attitude, he is mostly standing there hands in his waist(?) and looking bored.

I don't care if he becomes a monster with a contract I don't like the guy. Reminds me of a guy named Cletidus.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:19:50 PM(UTC)
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PERSONALLY...

I am loving all of your Love for Jolly.

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#20 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:56:31 PM(UTC)
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