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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#26 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2011 2:46:27 PM(UTC)
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No, "chock" is correct. Duh!
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#27 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2011 3:46:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel Go to Quoted Post
No, "chock" is correct. Duh!



Nice try Zero, I guess there's somebody in here I'm smarter than. Congratulations on successfully navigating a truck through 4 or 5 states.
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Offline Dexter_Sinister  
#28 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2011 7:06:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel Go to Quoted Post
No, "chock" is correct. Duh!

Unless he was saying DakotaT's mind if full of chalk.

Which is pretty funny to me.
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#29 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2011 10:17:34 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel Go to Quoted Post
A Mamluk (transliterated variously as mamlouk, mamluq, mamluke, mameluk, mameluke, mamaluke or marmeluke) was a slave who served as a soldier in Arabic cultures from the 9th through 19th century. The word comes from the Arabic مملوك (mamlūk), which meant "owned."

Berittener Mamluk in einer Darstellung von 1810
Ermordung der Mamluken in Kairo 1811

The famous Mameluke sword looks like this:

Mameluke sword wielded by Napoleon.

They are still carried by U.S. Marines in certain ceremonial contexts.

Marine ceremonial Mameluke sword

As an insult, it fails. I think people try to use it with the connotation of "troglodyte" or "Neanderthal" or something similar, but it misses wide of the mark.


This reminds me of "nimrod" used as an insult. Nimrod is a hunter or some such thing.
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#30 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 4:22:10 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 Go to Quoted Post
This reminds me of "nimrod" used as an insult. Nimrod is a hunter or some such thing.


Yes, the original Nimrod was from the Bible somewhere. NSD can probably fill us in as I haven't read the whole thing. He was a great hunter.

So the modern definition of Nimrod means great hunter. But yeah, it sounds funny so the morons turned a compliment into an insult.
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#31 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 6:31:54 PM(UTC)
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Is it?

The Left side is where you put your better blocker. Like it or not, the O is built around the QB. His health is your #1 concern long-term.

Most QBs are right-handed. Just how it is. If a guy is coming from his right side, he can see it and take appropriate measures. If a guy is coming from his left side, especially around the Left Tackle, he may be blindsided.

I don't have the stats for it, but I can almost guarantee you that when a QB gets injured in a sack, it's more likely that he got injured from his Left side and not the Right.

Even more of a guarantee, when a QB fumbles it's more than likely from the Left side as well. If you know you're gonna get hit, you protect the ball. That's what you're trained to do.


Yes it's stupid. Just because most teams prefer to have their better blocker at LT doesn't mean that's always that case either. Look at the Packers line. Bulaga/Sitton are a hell of a lot better than Clifton/Lang. It's perfectly reasonable to think that a player at RT was a better player in a given season than another player at LT.

Even assuming the left side is more important the difference really to me is not that significant (especially at the G position), a crappy RT can destroy an offense pretty much as easily as a crappy LT (see Alan Barbre).

I don't have a problem really if the best players during a season are indeed both left side players but I think it's stupid that a player on the right side is automatically dismissed and it is assumed any left side player was better. Like Sitton last year he won awards for being one of the best offensive lineman in all of football and I don't think he got anywhere near an all-pro vote. A player who sat out half the season made 1st team all-pro.

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#32 Posted : Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:46:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Stevetarded Go to Quoted Post
Yes it's stupid. Just because most teams prefer to have their better blocker at LT doesn't mean that's always that case either. Look at the Packers line. Bulaga/Sitton are a hell of a lot better than Clifton/Lang. It's perfectly reasonable to think that a player at RT was a better player in a given season than another player at LT.

Even assuming the left side is more important the difference really to me is not that significant (especially at the G position), a crappy RT can destroy an offense pretty much as easily as a crappy LT (see Alan Barbre).

I don't have a problem really if the best players during a season are indeed both left side players but I think it's stupid that a player on the right side is automatically dismissed and it is assumed any left side player was better. Like Sitton last year he won awards for being one of the best offensive lineman in all of football and I don't think he got anywhere near an all-pro vote. A player who sat out half the season made 1st team all-pro.


You still didn't address my 2 points though:
1) Sacks from the Left side are more likely to lead in QB injury (an assumption, I have no stats for this),
2) Sacks from the Left side are more likely to lead to fumbles (also an assumption, but from watching lots of football from 1976 to 2011, there's a lot of experience in my noggin).

Both points are why both coaches and voters have prejudices against the Right side.

I'm not saying it isn't stupid. I'm just explaining "why" it is what it is.
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#33 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:37:19 AM(UTC)
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when you dig out an ancient thread that is long since dead you should indicate it somehow. It is very confusing.
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#34 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:56:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
when you dig out an ancient thread that is long since dead you should indicate it somehow. It is very confusing.


lol it's really quite random. I check the users to see what their seeing and this page had 9 guests on it. Clicked it. Rourke? Rourke who!!
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#35 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:00:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
lol it's really quite random. I check the users to see what their seeing and this page had 9 guests on it. Clicked it. Rourke? Rourke who!!


I was just messing with you.
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