mi_keys
10 years ago
I hope this is true and that we get this done.

Do I dare get my muppet hopes up that we can sign Shields for this amount, restructure Williams, let Raji go AND honestly have some money to sign a free agent or two that could help fill a hole on our defense while keeping all our current key pieces?

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10 years ago
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buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

I hope this is true and that we get this done.

Do I dare get my muppet hopes up that we can sign Shields for this amount, restructure Williams, let Raji go AND honestly have some money to sign a free agent or two that could help fill a hole on our defense while keeping all our current key pieces?

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Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



Raji is off the books as of 2013, but yes, if they could sign Sam at 5.7 mil, and extend Tramon to lower his cap # for 2014, The Packers could still have 30mil+ to work with to spend however they feel is right.

Tramon is going to count in the area of 9.5 mil in 2014, 7.5 is base salary, 2 mil is dead money(signing bonus money)
The Packers could extend him for 3 years, turn that 7.5 mil into a signing bonus, for this post let's make it easy and make it 8 mil signing bonus.
That could be spread out over 4 years(2mil a year), then pay him 1mil(2013), 3 mil (2014), 4mil(2015 and 2016).
Even if Tramon would end up playing out the full 4 years, his cap # would never be over 6 mil.

That would free up 4.5 mil in 2014(Ted would only use about 1 mil of the current 30mil available).

Today's NFL contracts are all about signing bonuses and guaranteed money, the rest as "they say" is agent window dressing.
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DakotaT
10 years ago
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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
Man, for that amount that's a bargain. Pay him ASAP.
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beast
10 years ago

The report seems to be quoting Drew Rosenhouse

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I think the report was quoting an unnamed "source familiar with Rosenhaus"... which doesn't give us a clue who the source is nor their real knowledge.

Because I'm a little bit familiar with Rosenhaus, so I could be a random source. Rosenhaus has a bad rep but really he doesn't like wasting time and tries to go hard after what his client wants and get it down fast as he can. Really he's not bad, just goes after what the client wants (which sometimes isn't realist) and he's an attention hog and will take as much of it as he can get.

But the report has Tom Silverstein, and Silverstein takes the sources stuff VERY serious (maybe a bit too serious?) anyways his sources haven't been perfect but he gets the best info he can.

Also the unnamed source said they was basing it off that other deal... it doesn't say how closely or what part they're basing it off of. Shields could want 6.3 million a year (or more) with baseing four years and 50% be guaranteed, and 8 million in the first could be the base off the deal.




Bu yeah anyways under 6 million a year doesn't seem that bad, then again I don't think we've gone though and compared every single play like the Packers did. Shields could be worse than fans think and the fans just missed it because the Safeties are HORRIBLE last year. Though I think Shields did pretty well but I'm honestly surprised they're not looking for over 6 million (then again maybe they are we don't know).
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10 years ago
I don't care for rosey at all. I am suspect of the "source". Even if he frustrates the hell out of us Uncle Teddy isn't stupid. The deal with get done sometime before training camp. We just have to wait no matter how much it stinks to wait.
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10 years ago
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10 years ago

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In my opinion,

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