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User is suspended until 4/29/2043 11:56:55 PM(UTC) texaspackerbacker  
#1 Posted : Monday, March 3, 2014 12:11:46 PM(UTC)
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Now they are talking about some key Niner players, not just the owner/front office having problems with Harbaugh.

I would suggest that the line between a great head coach, a decent head coach, and a poor head coach is a thin one, and that PLAYERS - quality of players - is the much more important factor in success. Call it getting lucky/call it being sharp at drafting/signing/whatever, but the Niners hit it big with Willis, Bowman, a couple of D-Linemen, and of course Kaepernick. I give THAT fact a lot more credit than I give Harbaugh or scheme or playcalling or other factors for success.

What a coach can do is mess things up - overdoing (or under-doing) discipline, etc. I don't know that much about Harbaugh's management style, but you can't get away with being too much of a Vince Lombardi-type in the modern era. Likewise, being another Barry Switzer or Wade Phillips - letting players run wild - doesn't work either.

Speaking only of discipline and player management - not defensive schemes, playcalling, etc., I think what we have with the Packers pretty much covers the middle ground - which is about right for success.
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#2 Posted : Monday, March 3, 2014 12:24:47 PM(UTC)
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Tom Coughlin had quite a few players, okay, a few players gripe about his style and that it had worn thin. They ended up winning the Super Bowl several months later.
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I have serious doubts about Harbaugh, and that he inherited a team set to win, rather than him being the difference, and inherited a team in cap position to be able to bring in or keep players that others cannot. I do not think he is close to the coach his brother is, and if his locker room personality is anything close to on field antics, I can easily see how he can rub people and players in the wrong direction.
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texaspackerbacker said:
Harbaugh (Jim)


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I have serious doubts about Harbaugh, and that he inherited a team set to win, rather than him being the difference, and inherited a team in cap position to be able to bring in or keep players that others cannot. I do not think he is close to the coach his brother is, and if his locker room personality is anything close to on field antics, I can easily see how he can rub people and players in the wrong direction.


All of the team's 8 pro-bowlers, came from the pre-Harbaugh era.
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All Harbaugh has done is taken Mike Singletary's team farther than Mike did. Let him go build his own team and earn it that way.
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All Harbaugh has done is taken Mike Singletary's team farther than Mike did. Let him go build his own team and earn it that way.


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