texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Oh great, just what we need, another diss Capers thread.

I blame him all right. I blame him for whatever degree his input goes into Thompson's personnel decisions. I blame him also for whatever degree - 100%? - he is responsible for who plays - who starts as well as sub packages.

Beyond that, Capers has done a great job of using schemes to compensate for overall weakness of personnel aggravated by injuries. We would have been a helluva lot worse off without those schemes.

Grade B-
Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
DakotaT
10 years ago
Well Wayne, when you tell your fat, lazy 350 lineman to just stand there and take up the blocks, it's pretty tough to get pressure. We've been real hard on Raji and Pickett and some of it warranted, but if they are being coached to just do that, then it falls on Trgvac and Capers. You really can't blame Raji for being disinterested except for the fact that he is being payed pretty well to be interested.
UserPostedImage
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Well Wayne, when you tell your fat, lazy 350 lineman to just stand there and take up the blocks, it's pretty tough to get pressure. We've been real hard on Raji and Pickett and some of it warranted, but if they are being coached to just do that, then it falls on Trgvac and Capers. You really can't blame Raji for being disinterested except for the fact that he is being payed pretty well to be interested.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Then WHY would Boyd go into the game - presumably programmed to do the same role as Raji and Pickett, and actually contribute - making tackles, redirecting RBs, displaying at least a little bit of pass rush, etc.? Jolly too.


Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
warhawk
10 years ago
I will say this and that is I was very impressed with how Capers went about defending the 49'rs and that was the most important game of the year. No Mathews, Jolly, Hayward, and then Shields and Neal go down before the coin toss hit the ground.

I didn't think there was any way they were going to stay with those guys....but they did.

He had three first round picks over there in Mathews, Perry, and Raji, who literally contributed nada in far too many games. Albeit much of that due to injury. Then you have Datone Jones who obviously was just trying to learn how to play the role his position called for.

Add to this they had the most horse shit Safety play in the entire league.

Mathews coming back healthy would be huge in itself but some other guys need to step up and play. If D. Jones, Burnett, Worthy, Hayward, Perry, come back and play consistently at the level they have shown flashes this D is much better right away.

If Capers is to fault for anything it's that his schemes are very sophisticated and take 11 guys and lots of reps to mesh and when they start having to replace as many players as they did this last year there are just too many mistakes made and the unity required is just not there.
So maybe he needs a simplified plan B when three or four guys go down that requires less of these guys coming in.

"The train is leaving the station."
Laser Gunns
10 years ago
...

A) Dom's system to too complicated

B) players are too stupid to run the system

C) players are not talented enough

D) Dom is a bad play caller

F) all the above.

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!
steveishere
10 years ago
Dom's defenses can be good but they are way too prone to just fall to complete shit in the face of adversity.
nerdmann
10 years ago
Sometimes I think Dom starts to favor his guys who have been there awhile. Maybe it was Mike who made the decision to put Boyd in and some of these other guys.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
10 years ago

Well Wayne, when you tell your fat, lazy 350 lineman to just stand there and take up the blocks, it's pretty tough to get pressure. We've been real hard on Raji and Pickett and some of it warranted, but if they are being coached to just do that, then it falls on Trgvac and Capers. You really can't blame Raji for being disinterested except for the fact that he is being payed pretty well to be interested.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I guess they need big fatties who put pressure on the OL, QB and also RB and not just stand there and block the blocker who is blocking them.
UserPostedImage
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Sometimes I think Dom starts to favor his guys who have been there awhile. Maybe it was Mike who made the decision to put Boyd in and some of these other guys.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I have suspected that also. If it's true, it's about the only thing I blame Capers for.

I say again, HIS SCHEMES PREVENTED A BAD SITUATION FROM BEING EVEN WORSE. Do some people here actually not remember the bland Robert Sanders defense that came before him?


Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (26m) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
Mucky Tundra (33m) : For now...
Zero2Cool (1h) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
beast (3h) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
beast (3h) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
Zero2Cool (7h) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (7h) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Insane about Kingsley
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
dfosterf (28-Apr) : We got Peter Bowde
dfosterf (28-Apr) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
dfosterf (28-Apr) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings
beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
beast (27-Apr) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023
beast (27-Apr) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones
beast (27-Apr) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
2m / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

23h / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / beast

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

4-May / Packers Draft Threads / bboystyle

4-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.