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Offline warhawk  
#111 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:33:09 AM(UTC)
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Last year, Ted got both Eddie Lacy AND Johnathan Franklin, and didn't even need a R1 to get either one. LOL


Ted could probably trade out to early round two and get Shazier and then trade the 21st picks of rounds two and three and move back up to get Benjamin.

He would still have an early 3rd round pick (by virtue of trading the 21st pick and picking up an early 2nd and 3rd)and a late 3rd round comp pick.

All this without having to do anything with future picks. Ted's been known to move around but doesn't mess with future picks so I wouldn't hold my breath.

There are plenty of good players in this draft between 32 and 70. I look for Ted to work his magic there somehow.







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#112 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:36:48 AM(UTC)
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warhawk said: Go to Quoted Post
Ted could probably trade out to early round two and get Shazier and then trade the 21st picks of rounds two and three and move back up to get Benjamin.

He would still have an early 3rd round pick (by virtue of trading the 21st pick and picking up an early 2nd and 3rd)and a late 3rd round comp pick.

All this without having to do anything with future picks. Ted's been known to move around but doesn't mess with future picks so I wouldn't hold my breath.

There are plenty of good players in this draft between 32 and 70. I look for Ted to work his magic there somehow.









Most teams don't mess with future picks and for good reason. I can't think of a lot of teams that have really come out on top after trading high future picks.
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#113 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 5:44:26 AM(UTC)
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Most teams don't mess with future picks and for good reason. I can't think of a lot of teams that have really come out on top after trading high future picks.


NYG 1st and 5th from following year to SD for Eli Manning. 2 SB wins.

ATL traded up with SD a future R2 for Michael Vick. Took them to the playoffs...

DAL traded 3 R2s to move up and select Tony Dorsett.

But, you are right, the success rates seem very small. Some of them work, but they are few and far between. Thousands of bad trades compared to a handful of good ones throughout NFL history when trading top future picks.

Here's more info on the low success rate of trading future R1s and R2s...
http://thebiglead.com/20...rly-picks-is-a-bad-idea/
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NYG 1st and 5th from following year to SD for Eli Manning. 2 SB wins.

ATL traded up with SD a future R2 for Michael Vick. Took them to the playoffs...

DAL traded 3 R2s to move up and select Tony Dorsett.

But, you are right, the success rates seem very small. Some of them work, but they are few and far between. Thousands of bad trades compared to a handful of good ones throughout NFL history when trading top future picks.

Here's more info on the low success rate of trading future R1s and R2s...
http://thebiglead.com/20...rly-picks-is-a-bad-idea/


2013 Rams 7 - 9
2013 Redskins 3 - 13


Redskins get:
2nd-overall pick (2012)

Rams get:
2nd-overall pick (2014)
6th-overall pick (2012)
22nd-overall pick (2013)
39th-overall pick (2012)



It disgusts me that the Rams have two picks in the first 13 selections. Lucky pricks.
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#115 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM(UTC)
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I don't really like the idea of trading picks from next year to load up this year, but that is a LOT better idea than trading down. Also, if there ever was a year to do it, this would be the year - partly because the draft is supposedly so strong, but mainly because the Packers have such significant needs at Safety and ILB. Fix those, and our draft picks next year will be way down at the bottom of each round anyway.
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