steveishere
9 years ago
Yeah, I wouldn't call College a miss at all let alone a BIG miss he was a decent starter and got paid bigtime when he left which netted us a 4th rounder we used on Mike Daniels. You can't really compare a guy who though he was up and down was an overall solid starter for 5 straight seasons to someone like Brian Brohm or Pat Lee who both just plain sucked.

Worthy also has to be incomplete, he had pretty much an entire year lost to an injury and has only gotten 1 healthy (mostly) rookie season to go off of.
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9 years ago
Me and mi_keys are going to be fast friends. Sizzle can be found in any round. I'm disappointed we haven't sought it in Round 1 where there is more of it to be found. I'm not sure why you keep insisting my comments are inconsistent?

To be clear, I'm disappointed when we're in Round 1, we don't go for a certain type player. None of this excludes getting one in Round 2 or even Round 7. We miss often on guys who have no sizzle at all so why not take a shot on sizzle? The potential in missing on a sizzle guy seems to be at least equally proportionate to one who has little to none.
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play2win
9 years ago
Yeah, well at least I remembered what a complete disappointment he was through most of his tenure... Wow. How easy many forget.

Daryn Colledge: Scouts say he lacks toughness, athleticism and strength. There's no question that he ranked fifth best on a five-man unit. Nevertheless, he lined up for every game and just about every practice, trimmed his sack total from seven to three and his "pressures" from an abominable 40½ to 23½. As a pass blocker, he reacts pretty well against speed, is less effective against power and struggles picking up stunts. Led the club in "bad" runs with 25, a career high. Unable to sustain run blocks against better players and is too often late to the second level. Had a career-high eight penalties. Every team wants better than Colledge, but until the Packers find that man they at least know they can survive with him. Grade: C-minus.

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And, that SB winning season was indeed his best in a GB uniform. So, his end of season grade was a C- I would be shocked if he hadn't earned D or F in his previous seasons.

Well, what do you know? Thought I'd look it up for 2009:

Daryn Colledge: Didn't play with strength, athleticism or savvy. Allowed an astronomical 40½ pressures, 10 more than the previous leader (RG Will Whitticker, 2005) in the last 10 seasons. Not only that, but he was the runaway leader in bad runs with 18½. Four of his 7½ sacks allowed came at LT, where he was like a fish out of water. Falls off too many blocks at LB level. Just not a tough guy. His awful overtime holding penalty in the playoffs might have cost him a contract offer. Grade: D-minus

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buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

Yeah, well at least I remembered what a complete disappointment he was through most of his tenure... Wow. How easy many forget.



And, that SB winning season was indeed his best in a GB uniform. So, his end of season grade was a C- I would be shocked if he hadn't earned D or F in his previous seasons.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Forget what?

The Packers had Ryan Grant in 2007(955 yds), 2008(1203 yds), 2009(1255yds),

Jackson's 1st 3 yrs, it wasn't until Grant got hurt in 2010 did Jackson get a chance to play.

He was always going to be the 3rd down guy until he was forced to be the #1 guy in 2010.

If you remember, there was a lot of shuffling around in 2010, as the Packers tried to figure out how to replace Grant.

Jackson was never meant to be an every down back, that was proven when Starks came on and he was able to go back to being the 3rd down, change of pace guy.

Now what am I forgetting?


To call Brandon Jackson "a big miss" is innacurate at best.



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play2win
9 years ago

Forget what?

The Packers had Ryan Grant in 2007(955 yds), 2008(1203 yds), 2009(1255yds),

Jackson's 1st 3 yrs, it wasn't until Grant got hurt in 2010 did Jackson get a chance to play.

He was always going to be the 3rd down guy until he was forced to be the #1 guy in 2010.

If you remember, there was a lot of shuffling around in 2010, as the Packers tried to figure out how to replace Grant.

Jackson was never meant to be an every down back, that was proven when Starks came on and he was able to go back to being the 3rd down, change of pace guy.

Now what am I forgetting?


To call Brandon Jackson "a big miss" is innacurate at best.


Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I think it is pretty clear I was talking about Colledge asshole, before you deleted your post which I was answering.

Why do you have to be such a complete dick?

But, since you insist on now changing the subject completely, here is the way I recall Brandon Jackson as well in this 2009 review:

Brandon Jackson: Made an amazing transformation in blitz pickup from his rookie year of 2007 to now. Needed to carve out a niche as a reliable pass blocker because he's so pedestrian with the ball in his hands. Once described by a scout as a "meat and potatoes" runner. For their third-down back the Packers need someone with more speed. Grade: C-minus

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You're going to tell me I can't be disappointed with an R2 RB who is performing at that level in his 3rd season?

Sure, he played better in his 4th season in GB, but never earned a higher grade than C+. I expected more from the pick/player.
Mucky Tundra
9 years ago

Forget what?

The Packers had Ryan Grant in 2007(955 yds), 2008(1203 yds), 2009(1255yds),

Jackson's 1st 3 yrs, it wasn't until Grant got hurt in 2010 did Jackson get a chance to play.

He was always going to be the 3rd down guy until he was forced to be the #1 guy in 2010.

If you remember, there was a lot of shuffling around in 2010, as the Packers tried to figure out how to replace Grant.

Jackson was never meant to be an every down back, that was proven when Starks came on and he was able to go back to being the 3rd down, change of pace guy.

Now what am I forgetting?


To call Brandon Jackson "a big miss" is innacurate at best.


Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



We drafted a guy in the 2nd round to be a 3rd down back to a guy who was a UDFA and only added to the roster a week before the season started?:-k
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buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

I think it is pretty clear I was talking about Colledge asshole, before you deleted your post which I was answering.

Why do you have to be such a complete dick?

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Wasn't clear to me, and I never deleted anything, and "sticks and stone".

Oh hell, doesn't really matter, Ted will draft 9- 11 guys this year, they all will become starters, and The Packers will win the next 10 SB's.

That doesn't happen, well we can say ted had 9-11 misses in 2014.
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play2win
9 years ago

Wasn't clear to me, and I never deleted anything, and "sticks and stone".

Oh hell, doesn't really matter, Ted will draft 9- 11 guys this year, they all will become starters, and The Packers will win the next 10 SB's.

That doesn't happen, well we can say ted had 9-11 misses in 2014.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



My mistake buckeye. You didn't delete your post. I just feel very differently about Colledge, Jackson and Worthy.
Mucky Tundra
9 years ago

You're going to tell me I can't be disappointed with an R2 RB who is performing at that level in his 3rd season?

Sure, he played better in his 4th season in GB, but never earned a higher grade than C+. I expected more from the pick/player.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Deshawn Wynn, a 7th rounder from the same draft class, was getting more carries by the 5th week of the season in 07. Hell, even after Wynn went down Jackson only ended up with 25 more carries for the season.
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9 years ago
I thought Brandon Jackson was a colossal bust. I recall Ted Thompson saying they had studied every single play he'd ever run. He was drafted to be the answer. He was not.

Eddie Lacy was drafted to be the answer...he was.

Colledge was one of the worst lineman we've ever had in Green Bay and that miss was magnified due to his lofty draft status. How and why the Cardinals gave him that money is more baffling than the Colts giving that contract they gave to Walden.

I almost feel sorry that Brandon Jackson had to run behind the line we trotted out there for him.






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