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Offline Dulak  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:21:33 AM(UTC)
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So I was at a CPD seminar last week. Basically a mix/mosh of speakers.

Attended a seminar 'http://www.copashow.co.uk/workshops/spartanova/' on ACL tears and returning back to sports. Basically the seminar was a taster and they try to get you to 'buy' their product. They are from belgium (I think) - seemed to have made diagnosing injuries and if injured what is desired to return back to your current sport - into a science.

Anyways ... to make a long story short. I talked with one of the presenters; he told me he was in contact from someone from the denver broncos that day.

I couldnt find a site that lists injuries except for this: http://mmqb.si.com/2013/...fl-injury-increase-2013/

point is - maybe if the packers org wanted less injuries they need to get serious on prevention first and 2nd treating the injury correctly/effectively. cough like some teams are doing cough

or what is that saying ... they can keep doing what they have always done ...








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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:27:31 AM(UTC)
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I have a problem with folks always trying to medicate or apply bandaids to things. My perception is, find the source, find the root cause and fix that and everything else will flow well down stream.

Example. You're getting headaches three or four times a week. Most will load up on painpills. I think that is wrong. Go in, get checked out and find the root cause of your headaches. Fix the root of the problem.

I've said this before too. I watched two or three training camp practices last season and I was appalled by the effort during the stretches. Any trainer worth his/her weight in salt will tell you that the warm-up and stretch are the most important parts to any workout.

The Packers players didn't seem to care about stretching whatsoever. The quad stretches were poor. The bending for hamstring stretches was a joke. It was more or less just lean and go into the next 'stretch'. When you stretch, you really need to feel it for it to be effective.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:56:48 AM(UTC)
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I have a problem with folks always trying to medicate or apply bandaids to things. My perception is, find the source, find the root cause and fix that and everything else will flow well down stream.

Example. You're getting headaches three or four times a week. Most will load up on painpills. I think that is wrong. Go in, get checked out and find the root cause of your headaches. Fix the root of the problem.

I've said this before too. I watched two or three training camp practices last season and I was appalled by the effort during the stretches. Any trainer worth his/her weight in salt will tell you that the warm-up and stretch are the most important parts to any workout.

The Packers players didn't seem to care about stretching whatsoever. The quad stretches were poor. The bending for hamstring stretches was a joke. It was more or less just lean and go into the next 'stretch'. When you stretch, you really need to feel it for it to be effective.


In the OTAs that I saw, they worked through their stretching rather quickly as well. I agree with your premise and believe they could dedicate themselves to being a lot better in emphasizing proper stretching prior to taking the field.

I wonder how much of the CBA comes into play with this, as they seem very intent on getting into the practice drills as quickly as possible, with limited opportunities for on field work under the current agreement. Essentially what I saw was stretching for about 5 minutes, then some running on the field, leg kicks across the field, lateral steps across the field, etc. Sure, it is all designed to stretch everyone out prior to taking part in drill work, but it all seemed somewhat rushed, with little attention paid to players individually.

Being proactive and dedicating more time, or allocating a higher percentage of their time together with better stretching programs might be highly beneficial, and I think this is kind of where you are going here Zero2Cool. I agree. They really should be doing all they can to -prevent- injury on a grand scale after their last 4 seasons.

Maybe they are working on stuff indoors prior to taking the field that we are unaware of. I'm really hoping so.
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All this and they're STILL not stretching!? WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Maybe Mike just isn't The Guy.
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post


The Packers players didn't seem to care about stretching whatsoever. The quad stretches were poor. The bending for hamstring stretches was a joke. It was more or less just lean and go into the next 'stretch'. When you stretch, you really need to feel it for it to be effective.


sounds like me in High School...

yes, they are boring as heck... until you yank one bad Flapper
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This is lame and I hope it isn't true. These are conditioned athletes. Haven't they been told the importance of stretching their whole lives. Something is missing here.
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It has always amazed me how the best conditioned athletes in the world - all teams in all sports - keep getting so many nagging little injuries, in addition to a lot of major ones. I have played organized sports since before my teens - almost sixty years - NEVER stretching except going through the motions when forced hahahaha, and I never had any injury to speak of, severe or otherwise, despite being overweight most of those years and now old for a decade or so. I have always said from first hand knowledge, stretching is overrated.
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texaspackerbacker said: Go to Quoted Post
It has always amazed me how the best conditioned athletes in the world - all teams in all sports - keep getting so many nagging little injuries, in addition to a lot of major ones. I have played organized sports since before my teens - almost sixty years - NEVER stretching except going through the motions when forced hahahaha, and I never had any injury to speak of, severe or otherwise, despite being overweight most of those years and now old for a decade or so. I have always said from first hand knowledge, stretching is overrated.


ok
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I have a problem with folks always trying to medicate or apply bandaids to things. My perception is, find the source, find the root cause and fix that and everything else will flow well down stream.

Example. You're getting headaches three or four times a week. Most will load up on painpills. I think that is wrong. Go in, get checked out and find the root cause of your headaches. Fix the root of the problem.

I've said this before too. I watched two or three training camp practices last season and I was appalled by the effort during the stretches. Any trainer worth his/her weight in salt will tell you that the warm-up and stretch are the most important parts to any workout.

The Packers players didn't seem to care about stretching whatsoever. The quad stretches were poor. The bending for hamstring stretches was a joke. It was more or less just lean and go into the next 'stretch'. When you stretch, you really need to feel it for it to be effective.


I will agree with all until you get to the trainer. The $50-60-80,000 a year guy will not be able to consistently get the $1,000,000-5,000,000 22 year old kids.

It is Mike's job to either stand out there and enforce the proper stretching techniques or to have one of the coaches maybe even one from the offense and one from the defense out there.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:26:38 PM(UTC)
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Stretching does suck. I would imagine that it is very hard to enforce on young athletes. That being said, I think we need a very enforced regimen, though I admit that I do not know if it was already in place. I think it's possibly the hardest thing to get a young man to do.
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