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Offline uffda udfa  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:56:58 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, I meant he wouldn't make it to the PS because another team would pick him up on waivers before he cleared to get there.

I don't recall the Packers ever keeping more than 6 WR's. The injury thing probably ensures one of the top 6 or 7 hits PUP or IR. That is probably a good thing.

The Packers under Ted Thompson have kept some odd variations of roster makeup. I don't recall ever having 5 TE's on a roster prior to TT. 3 is the norm. I've been curious to see if we drop one TE to keep another WR. It'll be much easier to sneak a Perillo on the PS vs. a Janis. Also, I continue to wonder if Lyerla would be safe on the PS considering nobody would touch him post draft. Who knows...maybe, they keep 7 WR's if they really, really think those 7 are better than carrying a guy elsewhere.

Can't wait to see the final 53.

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:20:30 AM(UTC)
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uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, I meant he wouldn't make it to the PS because another team would pick him up on waivers before he cleared to get there.

I don't recall the Packers ever keeping more than 6 WR's. The injury thing probably ensures one of the top 6 or 7 hits PUP or IR. That is probably a good thing.

The Packers under Ted Thompson have kept some odd variations of roster makeup. I don't recall ever having 5 TE's on a roster prior to TT. 3 is the norm. I've been curious to see if we drop one TE to keep another WR. It'll be much easier to sneak a Perillo on the PS vs. a Janis. Also, I continue to wonder if Lyerla would be safe on the PS considering nobody would touch him post draft. Who knows...maybe, they keep 7 WR's if they really, really think those 7 are better than carrying a guy elsewhere.

Can't wait to see the final 53.



It is going to be a weird 53. Huge talent at WR, TE, DL and LB.

I agree vultures are going to swoop in and nab any WR we try putting on the PS not named Gillette. Lyerla won't last there either.

If they are going to go back to keeping only 3 TEs, this might be the year to do so, with Quarless, Rodgers and Lyerla being the top 3 IMO. They could probably PUP Bostick. They normally keep only 5 WRs, but kept 6 in 2012. We have 7 that I would like us to keep, but that won't work. Hoping Ted can work a trade before roster cuts. We still have a full TC and preseason to work through too. We are definitely protected should we suffer an injury at WR in TC.

There are plenty of teams in need of top WR talent.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:56:46 AM(UTC)
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I wouldn't be so sure Janis would get claimed on waivers. Everyone thought that about Charles Johnson too and he made it through. To claim him a team would have to put him onto their 53 for at least a couple weeks so you really have to be sure about a player to do that and he lasted until the late 7th round so obviously teams aren't all that sure about him. I think he'd be likely to get picked up a few weeks into the season though by a team that has some injuries at WR or some underperformers.
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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
I wouldn't be so sure Janis would get claimed on waivers. Everyone thought that about Charles Johnson too and he made it through. To claim him a team would have to put him onto their 53 for at least a couple weeks so you really have to be sure about a player to do that and he lasted until the late 7th round so obviously teams aren't all that sure about him. I think he'd be likely to get picked up a few weeks into the season though by a team that has some injuries at WR or some underperformers.


I'll put money down that the Packers put a WR who is on the edge on IR for a pulled kneecap or something.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:24:07 AM(UTC)
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steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
I wouldn't be so sure Janis would get claimed on waivers. Everyone thought that about Charles Johnson too and he made it through. To claim him a team would have to put him onto their 53 for at least a couple weeks so you really have to be sure about a player to do that and he lasted until the late 7th round so obviously teams aren't all that sure about him. I think he'd be likely to get picked up a few weeks into the season though by a team that has some injuries at WR or some underperformers.


Charles Johnson was injured, though. No one knew at the time just how injured he was but that played a role in him not getting scooped up right away. Packers had barely seen the guy due to his TC injury.

Janis is getting some positive press already and we're not to TC...that is something Charles Johnson never got. Those measurables of his are as good as Julio Jones and anyone else's in the entire league. I recall during the draft Charles Johnson tweeting that he thought the Cardinals would've been smarter to draft Jeff Janis in the 3rd round over the kid they took... John Brown from Pittsburgh State. https://twitter.com/Mrr_...tatus/464962341864747009
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:42:57 AM(UTC)
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Charles Johnson was injured, though. No one knew at the time just how injured he was but that played a role in him not getting scooped up right away. Packers had barely seen the guy due to his TC injury.

Janis is getting some positive press already and we're not to TC...that is something Charles Johnson never got. Those measurables of his are as good as Julio Jones and anyone else's in the entire league. I recall during the draft Charles Johnson tweeting that he thought the Cardinals would've been smarter to draft Jeff Janis in the 3rd round over the kid they took... John Brown from Pittsburgh State. https://twitter.com/Mrr_...tatus/464962341864747009


There's also the fact that nobody in the NFL thought he was a very good WR. I bet that played a role.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:34:48 AM(UTC)
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There's also the fact that nobody in the NFL thought he was a very good WR. I bet that played a role.


Charles Johnson? The rap on him was that he was a small school project. Hadn't competed on the big stage, so he was a bit raw, developmental guy.

Then when he showed up, he didn't show anything, because unbeknownst to our crack(ed) medical staff, he had knee ligament damage. These are the same "medical geniuses" who imo unnecessarily ended Nick Collins' career.
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There's also the fact that nobody in the NFL thought he was a very good WR. I bet that played a role.


I'm puzzled by the above statement. How do you know this? He was scooped up by Cleveland. He may have been scooped up much earlier before PS had he been healthy enough to show teams what he could do, but he never got the chance. When he did play in that 4th pre-season game he was running on a bad wheel, and Cleveland still added him later in the year.

Johnson was another one of these great measurable guys from a small school. He was exactly the type we needed...a guy who could actually run and I hate this wording but take the top off a defense. It was disappointing we never got to see him. I'm very curious to see how he fares in Cleveland now that he's fully healthy.

Janis is our only true burner. I'd love us to have a Corey Bradford type again. It's been a long long time since we've had one that I can recall.
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I'm puzzled by the above statement. How do you know this? He was scooped up by Cleveland. He may have been scooped up much earlier before PS had he been healthy enough to show teams what he could do, but he never got the chance. When he did play in that 4th pre-season game he was running on a bad wheel, and Cleveland still added him later in the year.

Johnson was another one of these great measurable guys from a small school. He was exactly the type we needed...a guy who could actually run and I hate this wording but take the top off a defense. It was disappointing we never got to see him. I'm very curious to see how he fares in Cleveland now that he's fully healthy.

Janis is our only true burner. I'd love us to have a Corey Bradford type again. It's been a long long time since we've had one that I can recall.


Because if teams thought he was a good WR he wouldn't have dropped to the 7th round.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:16:15 PM(UTC)
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Because if teams thought he was a good WR he wouldn't have dropped to the 7th round.


He had a nice turnout for his pro day and had scouts buzzing with the time he turned in.

Donald Driver was also in the same category as a 7th round WR and he turned out okay. Did teams think he wasn't very good or were they just unsure because he went to Alcorn State? Same for Marques Colston from Hofstra. Shoot, Shannon Sharpe is one of the greatest TE's of all time... 7th round. Did the Broncos think he couldn't play? Same for a guy like Julius Thomas now? Did we think Brandon Bostick couldn't play because we didn't draft him?

You are implying that every 7th rounder and UDFA there has ever been teams didn't think they were good players? There is a reason a guy is in the league. Some team somewhere thought they were good. Janis had several teams call him (I believe you may have posted the video clip) and wanted him as a UDFA.

We must not think any of our UDFA or 7th round guys are any good. Year after year UDFA's and 7th rounders make impact for the Green Bay Packers. Sam Shields and Tramon Williams. We must not have thought they were any good...we just got lucky that they turned into our starting CB tandem.
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