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Offline uffda udfa  
#71 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:10:36 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I agree 100%.



First part, you shouldn't want others to leave, you should want others to join in the discussion. If you throw down 1,000 words after 1,000 words, people will not want to participate because they are overwhelmed, just like DarkaneRules is implying. Novels are not necessary. Lighten up, get your point out and discuss. We are each Packers fans after all.

Last part, the Packers are doing very well when you consider the mass 32 teams and ignore the Madden'like expectations. This is real world. Families are involved in Free Agent decisions. Money. And a plethora of other factors. To solely say Ted Thompson is not doing his job is ignoring the whole picture and being somewhat narrow minded --- in my opinion.

Thompson deserves to be extended. How many GM's have done better than him? Who is out there that gives hope of doing better? It's not the right time for a regime change, plain and simple.


I reject your post for being too long and too dumb. :) (I hope you catch the irony and sarcasm)

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#72 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 6:39:56 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't disagree with your point, but why even respond and fuel the fire then? It's like saying Bears are mean animals and then going up to one, poking it and then complain that it chased after you.

If someone says something "dumbass"-like, ignore it and move on. Why is this so difficult for us to do?


Some people find stupidity annoying and want to rub their noses in it so they stop doing that on the carpet.

But you are right. He is trying to get attention.

We should stop obliging him.
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#73 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:07:55 PM(UTC)
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Some people find stupidity annoying and want to rub their noses in it so they stop doing that on the carpet.

But you are right. He is trying to get attention.

We should stop obliging him.


I couldn't agree more with your opening line. Jarrett Boykin is not Alshon Jeffery's equal and all attempts to show someone who says they are should be made.

I can assure you I enjoy debate.... if you substitute "attention" and the words "debates going"...you would hit it right on the mark. It is the dead time of the year. Do you want to sit and discuss the countdown of how a certain media guy rates our players 40 down to 1?

Would have to agree some should stop obliging as it hasn't ended well for them.

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#74 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:12:04 PM(UTC)
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uffda udfa said: Go to Quoted Post
I couldn't agree more with your opening line. Jarrett Boykin is not Alshon Jeffery's equal and all attempts to show someone who says they are should be made.

I can assure you I enjoy debate.... if you substitute "attention" and the words "debates going"...you would hit it right on the mark. It is the dead time of the year. Do you want to sit and discuss the countdown of how a certain media guy rates our players 40 down to 1?

Would have to agree some should stop obliging as it hasn't ended well for them.



Bad dog.
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#75 Posted : Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:25:25 PM(UTC)
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Dexter_Sinister said: Go to Quoted Post
Bad dog.


That was a rare LOL moment for me. Thank you.
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#76 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 8:11:38 AM(UTC)
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How come people are so quick to use San Fran and Seattle as the business model? Besides being loud and obnoxious, what have they done recently that the Packers haven't? The 49ers repeatedly come up short just like the Packers, but at least the Packers won a Superbowl recently. Yes, Seattle won it all last year, but so what? They could easily travel the same path as the Packers or even worse after winning their first championship. At least let them win a one or two more before crowning them kings and making them the business model.
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#77 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 8:31:05 AM(UTC)
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cheeseheads123 said: Go to Quoted Post
How come people are so quick to use San Fran and Seattle as the business model? Besides being loud and obnoxious, what have they done recently that the Packers haven't? The 49ers repeatedly come up short just like the Packers, but at least the Packers won a Superbowl recently. Yes, Seattle won it all last year, but so what? They could easily travel the same path as the Packers or even worse after winning their first championship. At least let them win a one or two more before crowning them kings and making them the business model.


People are quick to use them as the business model because A) the 49ers have had the Packers number of late. 2) the Seahawks won it all last year and lastly they are viewed as the top two teams in the NFC. All of which may be true but that does not mean it will remain true in 2014.

I usually hate the what if game but what would happen if Packers won the SB this season and defeated the Seahawks and 49ers in the process? I'll tell you what would happen. People would be looking at the Packers as the business model and the Seahawks and 49ers would be relegated to the better try harder next season column.
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#78 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 12:47:48 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't disagree with your point, but why even respond and fuel the fire then? It's like saying Bears are mean animals and then going up to one, poking it and then complain that it chased after you.

If someone says something "dumbass"-like, ignore it and move on. Why is this so difficult for us to do?


That's a good point. As I referenced in another post, we aren't perfect. Sometimes the fingers just get the best of us. But most of us learn how certain posters are and just let them do their thing. It's not worth the annoying headache, for sure (although not that I think about it for one second longer than I spend on this forum). But when it's littered across multiple topics, it gets harder to ignore. But I'm getting better and better at scrolling right over certain posters comments. For the most part, I can predict what they are going to say before they even say it, anyway.
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#79 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 3:14:07 PM(UTC)
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I cannot believe that we’re still debating Ted Thompson after four division titles, six playoff appearances, and a record (including playoffs) of 92-62-1. And there’s this little thing called the Super Bowl that the team won in 2010. Ted Thompson should and will stay as long as he likes.

As for the makeup of the current teams, I feel good. I guess I’m in the minority. I don’t know. It appears there’s worry here. I did not like the team last year. Maybe it was my Spidey Sense (if I have one) that told me to be pessimistic. I had the Packers going 9-7 in my NFL preview that year.

For whatever it’s worth, I have the Pack going 12-4. Frankly, I could see 13 or 14 wins. People are all on Seattle and San Francisco, but I think Green Bay and New Orleans are going to remind everybody that those are the two NFC teams with the best quarterbacks in the conference. I’m more concerned about whether the team can remain healthy. If they do, then they are Super Bowl contenders.
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#80 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 3:25:04 PM(UTC)
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cheeseheads123 said: Go to Quoted Post
How come people are so quick to use San Fran and Seattle as the business model? Besides being loud and obnoxious, what have they done recently that the Packers haven't? The 49ers repeatedly come up short just like the Packers, but at least the Packers won a Superbowl recently. Yes, Seattle won it all last year, but so what? They could easily travel the same path as the Packers or even worse after winning their first championship. At least let them win a one or two more before crowning them kings and making them the business model.


I didn't say Seattle of SF were the model...I used them in relation to us not being the model a team needs to follow. It seems many assume the slow go Ted Thompson approach is correct. It did win one SB. It has won very little eles outside of division championships.

SF and Seattle have gone for it the past couple of seasons. SF was in the bowl and not for a terrible non call on Crabtree probably wins it two years ago, and Seattle blew up Denver to win it last year. SF got to the NFC Championship in back to back seasons. Green Bay has been, outside of winning a game against Joe Webb and the Vikes, a one and done org with Ted Thompson save for our one run. The "chance" we have to win isn't very good when you routinely go out in Round 1. I'd rather be a team like SF who gets to NFC Championship games and SB's or a Seattle who wins one. They don't take our approach and most would tell you they're the class of the NFL, not Green bay. Joe Montana thinks Seattle is a dynasty in the making and Aaron Rodgers has fawned all over the prowess of the Seattle D model.

Do you truly believe Aaron Rodgers is happy he's stuck in the Ted Thompson model vs. what he could be in with SF or SEA? I'd say you're out of your mind if a competitor like him is happy being restrained as our org is.

The question is pretty simple beyond all you want to talk to around the central issue... Does Green Bay go for it IE: trying to win SB's like SF or SEA? Nope. They don't. Packer way is to "have a chance" and we do... a very good chance of being one and done again and again and having a D that is not good enough and not enough studs for Aaron on O.

How many years would you like to "have a chance" of really not having a very good chance of winning another one? Tick, tick, tick on Aaron's career.

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