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MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 5:16:08 AM(UTC)
The number of illegal contact penalties has been dropping from 72 in 2011 to 63 in 2012 to just 38 last season. Apparently the NFL thinks this is bad, therefore, when reading this snippet leaves one to assume the NFL isn't even worried about hiding its bias favoring offense.

"Word came out of the officials' camp in Dallas on Friday that the league is going to put an emphasis on calling more penalties in pass coverage. Former vice president of officiating Mike Pereira tweeted Friday that officials are being asked to call more interference, holding and illegal contact penalties."

How does this effect the Packers and their secondary? Help'em? Hurt'em?
nerdmann  
#2 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 6:26:52 AM(UTC)
MintBaconDrivel said: Go to Quoted Post
The number of illegal contact penalties has been dropping from 72 in 2011 to 63 in 2012 to just 38 last season. Apparently the NFL thinks this is bad, therefore, when reading this snippet leaves one to assume the NFL isn't even worried about hiding its bias favoring offense.

"Word came out of the officials' camp in Dallas on Friday that the league is going to put an emphasis on calling more penalties in pass coverage. Former vice president of officiating Mike Pereira tweeted Friday that officials are being asked to call more interference, holding and illegal contact penalties."

How does this effect the Packers and their secondary? Help'em? Hurt'em?


We've got good corners, or S's should be better.

Goodell's ruining the game. Just another way for officials to determine the outcome of games.
yooperfan  
#3 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 8:15:48 AM(UTC)
They call too many as it is.
Let them play!
Mucky Tundra  
#4 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 9:37:13 AM(UTC)
If they're intent on increasing the number of calls they need to reduce the amount the defense gets penalized for. Make illegal contact and holding 5 yard penalties with no automatic first down and reduce pass interference to 10 yards. As it stands, there's no reason not to just heave-ho the ball downfield in hopes of getting a penalty or a big reception.
Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 9:41:21 AM(UTC)
Mucky Tundra said: Go to Quoted Post
If they're intent on increasing the number of calls they need to reduce the amount the defense gets penalized for. Make illegal contact and holding 5 yard penalties with no automatic first down and reduce pass interference to 10 yards. As it stands, there's no reason not to just heave-ho the ball downfield in hopes of getting a penalty or a big reception.


If the penalty is less severe for the defense, wouldn't they just commit the infraction more often? Like Richard Sherman said, do it often because the officials won't call it every single time in fear of slowing the game down too much.
beast  
#6 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 9:59:26 AM(UTC)
MintBaconDrivel said: Go to Quoted Post
The number of illegal contact penalties has been dropping from 72 in 2011 to 63 in 2012 to just 38 last season. Apparently the NFL thinks this is bad, therefore, when reading this snippet leaves one to assume the NFL isn't even worried about hiding its bias favoring offense.

"Word came out of the officials' camp in Dallas on Friday that the league is going to put an emphasis on calling more penalties in pass coverage. Former vice president of officiating Mike Pereira tweeted Friday that officials are being asked to call more interference, holding and illegal contact penalties."

How does this effect the Packers and their secondary? Help'em? Hurt'em?


I'm not liking the sound of that... there were a number of years there that the refs were too trigger happen against PI calls (I even remember some non-Packers games (so I wasn't biased in them) and watched the DB get called for PI when it looked like it was the WR doing the PI, not the DB and replay confirmed it... of course the ref might of had a different angle of it than the camera.

Though it might be good the Packers are rumored to be going to a more aggressive defense up front which might help the DBs not need to cover as long... which in theory might help off set this for the Packers DBs.

Also this could help the Packers WRs... Seahawks DBs are some of the most aggressive in getting their hands on someone in the NFL. So more aggressive PIs could throw them off their game some. I remember the "fail mary" game... they were very aggressive and the Packers WR seemed surprised and taken off their game not expecting it and struggling to handle the bump and run and getting open.
beast  
#7 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 10:03:50 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
If the penalty is less severe for the defense, wouldn't they just commit the infraction more often? Like Richard Sherman said, do it often because the officials won't call it every single time in fear of slowing the game down too much.


Very good point... and maybe the NFL is getting after them, telling them to get more aggressive because they missed a lot of them and were doing a bad job at calling them... if someone is breaking the rules often and the refs aren't getting after them on the other team wouldn't you get upset?

And the Seahawks have seemed to be able to get more aggressive with their DB and get away with it. Maybe that's how they did it... did it enough that the refs felt like they couldn't call it every time. That or good coaching and hard work... or a mix of al of the above.
nerdmann  
#8 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 11:50:40 AM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm not liking the sound of that... there were a number of years there that the refs were too trigger happen against PI calls (I even remember some non-Packers games (so I wasn't biased in them) and watched the DB get called for PI when it looked like it was the WR doing the PI, not the DB and replay confirmed it... of course the ref might of had a different angle of it than the camera.

Though it might be good the Packers are rumored to be going to a more aggressive defense up front which might help the DBs not need to cover as long... which in theory might help off set this for the Packers DBs.

Also this could help the Packers WRs... Seahawks DBs are some of the most aggressive in getting their hands on someone in the NFL. So more aggressive PIs could throw them off their game some. I remember the "fail mary" game... they were very aggressive and the Packers WR seemed surprised and taken off their game not expecting it and struggling to handle the bump and run and getting open.


I think we can all agree that with a QB who is obsessed with throwing deep, that this will help our offense far more than it will hurt our defense.

We can probably also all agree that it's bullshit.
DarkaneRules  
#9 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 12:30:49 PM(UTC)
yooperfan said: Go to Quoted Post
They call too many as it is.
Let them play!


Word for word that was exactly what I was going to say!
DakotaT  
#10 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 2:55:16 PM(UTC)
Ask Vikings fans if our corners get away with too much holding and pass interference. I just alwasy tell them they should draft and develop some cover corners and shitcan that pussy zone crap they play.
Tezzy  
#11 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 6:40:44 PM(UTC)
@MikePereira "Last time the NFL had this as a major emphasis was 2004 and the number of illegal contact fouls went from 79 to 191."

@MikePereira "NFL says they are offsetting this emphasis with an emphasis on calling offensive pass interference. Not an even trade in my opinion."
DarkaneRules  
#12 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 9:12:29 PM(UTC)
Oh man I really hope they don't follow through with this. It's going to make a lot of these games nearly interolable. Come on NFL... I am trying to love you and you keep pushing me away!
mi_keys  
#13 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 9:18:45 PM(UTC)
Tezzy said: Go to Quoted Post
@MikePereira "NFL says they are offsetting this emphasis with an emphasis on calling offensive pass interference. Not an even trade in my opinion."


And where the fuck was this during Randy Moss' heyday? I'll believe it when I see it.

Per the topic, I like the college rules where illegal contact isn't even a thing. I hate this we need a touchdown at least every other drive bullshit. Heaving the ball 70 yards down field in the hopes the defensive back breathes too heavily on the receiver isn't exciting. Scoring, in and of itself, is not exciting (ask the NBA); scoring because you actually had to earn the damn touchdown is.
Mucky Tundra  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:27:25 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
If the penalty is less severe for the defense, wouldn't they just commit the infraction more often? Like Richard Sherman said, do it often because the officials won't call it every single time in fear of slowing the game down too much.


If we're gonna slow down the game for penalties, might as well be for legit penalties coming off aggressive defense. Teams that resort to clutching and grabbing all the time will get zeroed out and get called for penalties simply based on reputation and kill their chances of winning. Teams that learn the rules and learn boundaries would be rewarded with turnovers and defensive stops. Bad offensive teams no longer receive a get out of jail card and good offensive teams can build leads that won't evaporate in 5 minutes. Everybody wins.

PS Fuck Richard Sherman. Can't wait to watch Jordy tune his bloated, steroid ass up on the opener.
nerdmann  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:56:13 AM(UTC)
Mucky Tundra said: Go to Quoted Post
If we're gonna slow down the game for penalties, might as well be for legit penalties coming off aggressive defense. Teams that resort to clutching and grabbing all the time will get zeroed out and get called for penalties simply based on reputation and kill their chances of winning. Teams that learn the rules and learn boundaries would be rewarded with turnovers and defensive stops. Bad offensive teams no longer receive a get out of jail card and good offensive teams can build leads that won't evaporate in 5 minutes. Everybody wins.

PS Fuck Richard Sherman. Can't wait to watch Jordy tune his bloated, steroid ass up on the opener.


More opportunity for officials to determine outcome of games.
Mucky Tundra  
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:11:57 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
More opportunity for officials to determine outcome of games.


Can't imagine it being any worse than it is now.
Dexter_Sinister  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:18:26 PM(UTC)
Sounds like a great idea. Specially if they make an example out of Dick Sherman in the first game of the year.
wpr  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:59:01 PM(UTC)
DarkaneRules said: Go to Quoted Post
Oh man I really hope they don't follow through with this. It's going to make a lot of these games nearly interolable. Come on NFL... I am trying to love you and you keep pushing me away!


When the games start running 4 hours long and the late games with their higher ad dollar revenue are cut short due to a Washington- Houston snoozer the NFL will rethink and scrap this idea. IIRC they dropped one of their "point of emphasis" campaigns a few years back when i didn't work out the way they had hoped.
yooperfan  
#19 Posted : Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:31:27 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
When the games start running 4 hours long and the late games with their higher ad dollar revenue are cut short due to a Washington- Houston snoozer the NFL will rethink and scrap this idea. IIRC they dropped one of their "point of emphasis" campaigns a few years back when i didn't work out the way they had hoped.


Between the advertising and the flags the games have become too long already.
Seeing the end of a night game has become a thing of the past for me.

Except for when the Packers are playing of course.
Mucky Tundra  
#20 Posted : Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:02:46 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
When the games start running 4 hours long and the late games with their higher ad dollar revenue are cut short due to a Washington- Houston snoozer the NFL will rethink and scrap this idea. IIRC they dropped one of their "point of emphasis" campaigns a few years back when i didn't work out the way they had hoped.


And to think, it took until only recently for the tv channels to give NFL games 3 1/2 hours of allotted time after years of lying to themselves the games would be over in 3 hours.
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