Dulak
9 years ago

Still stand with this opinion..

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



also agree with the above - who really cares what 2 consenting adults do?
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

To me.. the concept of not allowing them to join in the legal definition of marriage is absurd.

The church and afterlife can have there say independently from the legalities of this country..

The hypocrisy of any government that will label "Under God" from the pledge of Allegiance as nothing more than "ceremonial and patriotic nature", cannot justifiably cite any religious connotations to gay marriage. You can't have it both ways.

We have wasted probably billions of dollars in this country on this topic, that has really no reason to be an issue for the government to rule upon.

It is not our fight as a union to decide.. two adults should be able to form a marriage freely if both consent.. regardless of sex, race or religion.

But pressure from religious voters sways the self serving politician in seeking re-election.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



OK, point taken, but ......... as I'm sure you know, if you think about it, there is a LOT more to marriage in terms of government than mere approval - affirmative aspects: tax law, community property and inheritance, just to name a few. You want to apply all of that to homosexuals the same as to normal married people? OK, then how about polygamy? A much stronger case can be made for THAT in terms of normalcy, morality, and religion than for homosexuality. And if abnormal and religiously abominable is deemed to be acceptable, then how about the guy who wants to marry his favorite sheep - or maybe the whole flock? Where do you draw the line?
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DakotaT
9 years ago

OK, point taken, but ......... as I'm sure you know, if you think about it, there is a LOT more to marriage in terms of government than mere approval - affirmative aspects: tax law, community property and inheritance, just to name a few. You want to apply all of that to homosexuals the same as to normal married people? OK, then how about polygamy? A much stronger case can be made for THAT in terms of normalcy, morality, and religion than for homosexuality. And if abnormal and religiously abominable is deemed to be acceptable, then how about the guy who wants to marry his favorite sheep - or maybe the whole flock? Where do you draw the line?

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



You draw the line with two human beings. This really isn't that difficult. It's just one more thing for all the Leviticus Christians out there to stomach. Poor bastards! The bigots have beaten up gay people long enough, let them have their rights.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

You draw the line with two human beings. This really isn't that difficult. It's just one more thing for all the Leviticus Christians out there to stomach. Poor bastards! The bigots have beaten up gay people long enough, let them have their rights.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I understand, you don't have a problem with that particular perversion. How many others do you approve of? Pedophilia fits snugly within the line you drew, for example.

Why would you have a problem with homosexuality merely being allowed or even ceremonially sanctioned as marriage, just not given the preferred or subsidized status of real marriage? And how do you justify favoring homosexual marriage over polygamy - assuming your motive is just to "let the poor bastards have their rights"?


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dfosterf
9 years ago
I say "let the poor bastards have their rights".


I'm not here to judge anyone else's sexual activities.
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

I say "let the poor bastards have their rights".


I'm not here to judge anyone else's sexual activities.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



The judgment comes in when you decide to give them all the legal bennies of government-recognized marriage. Are you in favor of that? And were you talking just about homosexual marriage? Or polygamy among normal people also? Sure, let 'em all have the right to practice their crap - and probably a lot of other perversions too, but why bring tax benefits, inheritance, property ownership, ability to adopt/pervert kids, immigration, etc. into it just like real marriage?
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mi_keys
9 years ago

OK, then how about polygamy? A much stronger case can be made for THAT in terms of normalcy, morality, and religion cherry picking beliefs from bronze age fables than for homosexuality.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Fixed.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

Fixed.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



So what's your point? Are you PRO-homosexuality? Or anti-Judeo-Christian? Or what?

Speak up/identify your favorite perversion/state what part of our American tradition and heritage and concept of normalcy you have a problem with. Don't be shy.
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GermanGilbert
9 years ago
It scares me that there are still people who use terms like "perversion" when it comes down to homosexuality.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

It scares me that there are still people who use terms like "perversion" when it comes down to homosexuality.

Originally Posted by: GermanGilbert 



Oh really? Exactly how did homosexuality become any less perverse than it was x number of years ago - as seen by virtually every culture and civilization in history? I would suggest that the practice is the same; It's just the perspective of an increasing percentage of people - I doubt a majority even now - has been transformed/successfully propagandized/whatever. WHY do you see what has been seen as an abomination not only by us - Judeo-Christian people, but pretty much ALL cultures as somehow NOT perverse? Other than being one or being extremely close to somebody who's one, WHY would you fall prey to this propaganda?

I have nothing against what Dakota and Gunny said - "let the bastards have their rights". I just think the whole practice should still be seen as society has seen it ....... ever since there was such a thing as society - as a perversion - something sick and abnormal.
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