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DarkaneRules  
#21 Posted : Friday, August 1, 2014 3:48:51 PM(UTC)
Yeah not looking good. Looks like a red shirt year for JA :(
uffda udfa  
#22 Posted : Friday, August 1, 2014 5:30:42 PM(UTC)
There's a silver lining in this potentially bad news. As much as everyone wants to see Abby do well as an in-stater, he was way too weak as an NFL player. Now, as steve pointed out he'll have a chance to just focus on his body which is where he needs to be focused. He's smart and just gets it so he really isn't going to lose too much by not playing. He'll get stronger because he'll be rehabbing like crazy.

The other upside is Kevin Dorsey has been raved about...lots of positive vibes about him. Maybe, Kevin doesn't make the team if Abbrederis is healthy? Now, it gives Harper, Janis and Dorsey better odds of making the team. We may find a stud out of that group who would've been cut had Abbrederis been healthy.

No way you can blame MM, Ted Thompson or anyone for a guy's knee popping. Stuff happens...it's just unfortunate it always seems to be happening to the Packers regardless of what they try to do different.
Laser Gunns  
#23 Posted : Friday, August 1, 2014 6:03:12 PM(UTC)
dont buy into their BS.

these injuries are brought on by Mike McCarthy just to give us an excuse for underperforming.

its his plan for his next contract extension, so when they ask why we have not done shit since 2010, he can just point at the injuries.

nerdmann  
#24 Posted : Friday, August 1, 2014 6:22:17 PM(UTC)
Laser Gunns said: Go to Quoted Post
dont buy into their BS.

these injuries are brought on by Mike McCarthy just to give us an excuse for underperforming.

its his plan for his next contract extension, so when they ask why we have not done shit since 2010, he can just point at the injuries.



Dude needs to step up and protect his players.

No accountability for the defensive staff, no accountability for the trainers.
buckeyepackfan  
#25 Posted : Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:24:34 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Dude needs to step up and protect his players.

No accountability for the defensive staff, no accountability for the trainers.


This from Family Night article in Headlines:

Questions for Mark Murphy

Is massage therapy being utilized for the players and, if not, why?

Yes, Stacey, we absolutely use massage therapy for our players. It is one of many options we provide to our players to help them stay flexible and healthy. The massages are typically provided on off days. During the first week of training camp, the players were given the day off on Tuesday and we had several massage therapists in our facility to work with the players. Yoga is also very popular with our players. In addition, you may have read that we recently hired a nutritionist, Adam Korzun, to insure our players are eating healthy. We also have a chiropractor, Dr. Michael Zoelle, who comes to Lambeau Field regularly to work with many of our players.


What else is needed? This is a serious question.

With the new rules, seems to me, the players need to take it upon themselves to work out year round, and to be in the best shape possible before camp opens.

Accountability should start with the players.

The Packer organization is making all this available to the players, these are grown men, if they don't take advantage of these options, then how can you hold Mike and the training staff accountable?

Injuries are going to happen, the odds should be turning in The Packers favor.

Abbrederis may have caught a bad break, but as Dakota T mentioned, could be a blessing in disguise, a year on IR, a chance to work with the strength coaches may not be a bad thing.



Dulak  
#26 Posted : Saturday, August 2, 2014 12:10:22 PM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
We also have a chiropractor, Dr. Michael Zoelle, who comes to Lambeau Field regularly to work with many of our players.



I need to bump this guy off and take his job ;)

And Ill state this - they need to get a chiro there that works there and thats it. All these dudes with bulged discs in their LB and Neck. Probably a chiro that just stops in and adjs a few peeps isnt going to help with potential ACL injuries, hammy injuries etc etc ...
Unless he is a dedicated chiro that is into that stuff.

and ya ACL injuries can be prevented - Im not an expert but like I mentioned last month - went to a seminar where they talked about this very thing and they stated were having talks with the denver broncos staff.



nerdmann  
#27 Posted : Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:16:23 PM(UTC)
buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
This from Family Night article in Headlines:

Questions for Mark Murphy

Is massage therapy being utilized for the players and, if not, why?

Yes, Stacey, we absolutely use massage therapy for our players. It is one of many options we provide to our players to help them stay flexible and healthy. The massages are typically provided on off days. During the first week of training camp, the players were given the day off on Tuesday and we had several massage therapists in our facility to work with the players. Yoga is also very popular with our players. In addition, you may have read that we recently hired a nutritionist, Adam Korzun, to insure our players are eating healthy. We also have a chiropractor, Dr. Michael Zoelle, who comes to Lambeau Field regularly to work with many of our players.


What else is needed? This is a serious question.

With the new rules, seems to me, the players need to take it upon themselves to work out year round, and to be in the best shape possible before camp opens.

Accountability should start with the players.

The Packer organization is making all this available to the players, these are grown men, if they don't take advantage of these options, then how can you hold Mike and the training staff accountable?

Injuries are going to happen, the odds should be turning in The Packers favor.

Abbrederis may have caught a bad break, but as Dakota T mentioned, could be a blessing in disguise, a year on IR, a chance to work with the strength coaches may not be a bad thing.





How's that working out?

Maybe Abby's knee will be ok. Maybe this constant string of devastating injuries will subside this year. We don't know. BUT, what do you all BELIEVE, in your gut? Are we going to be fielding yet another JV team in the playoffs this year? If so, it's going to be due to excessive injuries. We won the SB despite this bullshit, not because we were healthy.

Not good enough.

Demovsky

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Abbrederis injury update: You won't see rookie receiver Jared Abbrederis on the field (although he may be in attendance), but we should learn more about his knee injury.

Indications are that the fifth-round pick from Wisconsin sustained a torn ACL, although he was awaiting another round of tests to be sure. If those tests confirm such, he will need season-ending surgery.


Dexter_Sinister  
#28 Posted : Saturday, August 2, 2014 8:05:46 PM(UTC)
How could the injury be due to any type of negligence on the Packers part? Even if this was preventable through alternative maintainance, he has only been with the for team a couple weeks worth of work.

The fault would be on what he did previously to neglect his knees so bad that his ACL popped. Any rookey blowing out a knee in camp wouldn't be the training staff's fault. It would be the college staff's.
Cheesey  
#29 Posted : Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:50:59 PM(UTC)
I'm sad to see that he's hurt. As. A badger fan I was really pulling for him.
nerdmann  
#30 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:55:52 AM(UTC)
Dexter_Sinister said: Go to Quoted Post
How could the injury be due to any type of negligence on the Packers part? Even if this was preventable through alternative maintainance, he has only been with the for team a couple weeks worth of work.

The fault would be on what he did previously to neglect his knees so bad that his ACL popped. Any rookey blowing out a knee in camp wouldn't be the training staff's fault. It would be the college staff's.


It's pretty uncanny, though.
sschind  
#31 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 6:20:42 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
It's pretty uncanny, though.


Uncanny in that you blame the coaching staff for all the injuries and he got injured so its their fault. Yeah, that is uncanny. Probably more like convenient though. Convenient for you.

nerdmann  
#32 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:25:14 AM(UTC)
sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
Uncanny in that you blame the coaching staff for all the injuries and he got injured so its their fault. Yeah, that is uncanny. Probably more like convenient though. Convenient for you.



You can set your watch by these season ending injuries. Career ending injuries too. They just keeping coming.

You can also set your watch by playoff losses due to the attrition.
DoddPower  
#33 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:08:26 AM(UTC)
Dexter_Sinister said: Go to Quoted Post
How could the injury be due to any type of negligence on the Packers part? Even if this was preventable through alternative maintainance, he has only been with the for team a couple weeks worth of work.

The fault would be on what he did previously to neglect his knees so bad that his ACL popped. Any rookey blowing out a knee in camp wouldn't be the training staff's fault. It would be the college staff's.


I don't think it's anyone's "fault." It's football. ACL injuries happen.
nerdmann  
#34 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:22:28 PM(UTC)
DoddPower said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't think it's anyone's "fault." It's football. ACL injuries happen.


When an ACL pops, in the absence of traumatic injury to the joint, during normal athletic activity, I look at it as a nutritional issue. Remember Bulaga last year on family night? Finished out the drive with a ruptured ACL. This year, Abby's ACL went on Wednesday, and he practiced with it on Thursday, iirc. wtf?
buckeyepackfan  
#35 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:37:16 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
When an ACL pops, in the absence of traumatic injury to the joint, during normal athletic activity, I look at it as a nutritional issue. Remember Bulaga last year on family night? Finished out the drive with a ruptured ACL. This year, Abby's ACL went on Wednesday, and he practiced with it on Thursday, iirc. wtf?


And he said He felt it Wednesday, but didn't think it was anything and didn't say anything to anyone until after Thursday's practice.

Yes, WTF?????


beast  
#36 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 6:44:22 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
When an ACL pops, in the absence of traumatic injury to the joint, during normal athletic activity, I look at it as a nutritional issue. Remember Bulaga last year on family night? Finished out the drive with a ruptured ACL. This year, Abby's ACL went on Wednesday, and he practiced with it on Thursday, iirc. wtf?


buckeyepackfan said: Go to Quoted Post
And he said He felt it Wednesday, but didn't think it was anything and didn't say anything to anyone until after Thursday's practice.

Yes, WTF?????




I guess an ACL injury sometimes doesn't hurt that much? ... which is probably why the WR draft pick from last year everyone had hopes for didn't know about his and didn't go to the medical people then?

Question now is... how many people have ACL injuries and never know it? And just keep living their lives?
steveishere  
#37 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 6:59:20 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
When an ACL pops, in the absence of traumatic injury to the joint, during normal athletic activity, I look at it as a nutritional issue. Remember Bulaga last year on family night? Finished out the drive with a ruptured ACL. This year, Abby's ACL went on Wednesday, and he practiced with it on Thursday, iirc. wtf?


If you believe it's a nutritional issue then it would be much less McCarthy's fault. The guy can't physically make players eat a certain way. These are professionals if they don't eat right that's completely on them. Not to mention that you have 0 clue whatsoever what Jared Abbrederis or anyone elses nutrition is like so your post is mostly just a bunch of spewing unfounded nonsense.
nerdmann  
#38 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:38:08 PM(UTC)
beast said: Go to Quoted Post
I guess an ACL injury sometimes doesn't hurt that much? ... which is probably why the WR draft pick from last year everyone had hopes for didn't know about his and didn't go to the medical people then?

Question now is... how many people have ACL injuries and never know it? And just keep living their lives?


That's right, Charles Johnson. That's THREE of them.

Just regular ACL's that suddenly, for no reason just POP. Is that odd?
nerdmann  
#39 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:41:44 PM(UTC)
steveishere said: Go to Quoted Post
If you believe it's a nutritional issue then it would be much less McCarthy's fault. The guy can't physically make players eat a certain way. These are professionals if they don't eat right that's completely on them. Not to mention that you have 0 clue whatsoever what Jared Abbrederis or anyone elses nutrition is like so your post is mostly just a bunch of spewing unfounded nonsense.


No evidence whatsoever, except for a bunch of ACLs that suddenly pop, with no trauma to the joint. I mean really. These guys keep on practicing. LOL

And that's just the ACLs, we're not even including all the hammys.

But none of us expect accountability. Of course it's not Mike's fault. And when we field a JV team in the playoffs this year and get our asses kicked, it won't be his fault either.
nerdmann  
#40 Posted : Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:43:58 PM(UTC)
Remember when Mike Neal hurt his knee his rookie year? No contact, just "fell in a heap," grabbing his knee? Just another oddity.

At least he didn't keep practicing on it. lol
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