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voiceofreason  
#41 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:25:04 PM(UTC)
we are definitely in different universes. Im a fan who is fun and supportive. You are a sad little man who just joined this forum. You spew outlandish statements in the hopes of an I told you so after the fact. After the season is over and all your ridiculous predictions are proven false you will fade into the nether like so many before you. But Packer Nation, and Packershome will live on.
uffda udfa  
#42 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:35:50 PM(UTC)
voiceofreason said: Go to Quoted Post
Well. Boykin ran a 4.74. Jerry Rice ran a 4.71. If Boykin is slow, so to Jerry Rice be. according to your scouting metrics.


I figured you would give a non answer. Jerry Rice ran a hand timed 40. The great Gil Brandt the architect of the great Cowboys teams under Landry hand timed Rice NINE times. He hit 4.55 but never got under that mark.

Now, let's look at Boykin's 40 time recorded at the combine. 4.74. This from his draft bio on NFL.com...the very first sentence: Boykin is an athletic receiver with a ton of size. He is a slow mover who is not taking the top off any NFL defenses, but his long strides make him look fluid in the open field running intermediate routes.


In fact, he was so slow that there was only ONE WR who ran a worse time than Boykin in 4 years of combine timing of WR's. Yet, here you are arguing with me about Jerry Rice's 40 time meaning that Jarrett isn't slow?

Wow. Jarrett is slow. Show me something that says or proves that he isn't. I like the guy...he's just slow. I'm sorry that is a non supportive statement, but it's the truth, which is what I prefer.
voiceofreason  
#43 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:41:39 PM(UTC)
From Alshon Jeffery's nfl.com draft bio : Jeffery is an elite jump-ball prospect, but he does not stand out as fast on tape and is such a long strider that at times he looks to be moving in slow motion
uffda udfa  
#44 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:42:49 PM(UTC)
voiceofreason said: Go to Quoted Post
we are definitely in different universes. Im a fan who is fun and supportive. You are a sad little man who just joined this forum. You spew outlandish statements in the hopes of an I told you so after the fact. After the season is over and all your ridiculous predictions are proven false you will fade into the nether like so many before you. But Packer Nation, and Packershome will live on.


So, you think the fact you joined in 2009 and have 60 some posts and live in Wisconsin gives your opinions more weight than mine? You can be fun and supportive. I didn't notice objective in there anywhere. That is where we differ. I don't want to be any agenda despite the labels hurled at me. I like reality. Reality is Jarrett Boykin is a nice WR who is slow. You act like I insulted you mom who thinks highly of you.

You make wild allegations about what I'm doing here. I don't make statements for any I told you so's down the road. That is you making things up to make arguments that don't exist unless you conjure them. I won't fade into any netherland. I don't derive self worth from being right on a football forum nor do I feel any shame if my opinion turns out to be wrong. Again, different universes. I won't leave, but I may be censored long before we get to the end of the season.

Be fun...be supportive. That's great. Let me be what I am....that sad little man you think I am. Another wrong charge, but I don't really mind.



voiceofreason  
#45 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:43:52 PM(UTC)
From Jordy Nelsons nfl.com draft bio : A better athlete than given credit for, but isn't the elite athlete his senior production may have you believe. ... Good route-runner, but lacks explosiveness out of his breaks and elite deep ball speed. ... Primary target in this offense, receiving more than twice as many passes his way than any other Wildcat receiver. ... Big play artist for KSU, but may lack the acceleration to be anything more than a possession receiver at the next level
uffda udfa  
#46 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:44:13 PM(UTC)
voiceofreason said: Go to Quoted Post
From Alshon Jeffery's nfl.com draft bio : Jeffery is an elite jump-ball prospect, but he does not stand out as fast on tape and is such a long strider that at times he looks to be moving in slow motion


And? That has what bearing on Boykin being slow? I'm not sure you're sure what you're trying to prove here. Boykin is slow. You can cite 500 guys who are also slow but that doesn't negate that Boykin is slow.

BTW, do you know what point you're trying to make?
voiceofreason  
#47 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:46:31 PM(UTC)
From Randall Cobb's nfl.com draft bio : Does not possesses great top-end speed and not overly elusive in the open field. Does not have the strength and power to carry the load or push the pile. Only possesses adequate overall ball skills as a receiver. Struggles to sustain his blocks.
voiceofreason  
#48 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:56:27 PM(UTC)
My point is that Boykin is not slow. He runs like everyone else is standing still!
uffda udfa  
#49 Posted : Sunday, August 10, 2014 7:18:48 PM(UTC)
voiceofreason said: Go to Quoted Post
My point is that Boykin is not slow. He runs like everyone else is standing still!


By quoting bios from other players that equates to Boykin not being slow? I'm not following the logic.

Boykin is slow. There's no other way to describe his speed or lack of it.

Will be very fun to see what happens at WR. I can support that.
voiceofreason  
#50 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 8:37:16 AM(UTC)
On that we can agree my friend. Should be a very solid top 4. Now we just need a TE to step up.
nerdmann  
#51 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 8:49:09 AM(UTC)
Boykin has shown he's fast enough to get deep. I don't consider him a speed blazer though.

His main asset is his size. Hands too.
QCHuskerFan  
#52 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 9:18:34 AM(UTC)
Let's move on. Enough childishness.
sschind  
#53 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 11:46:11 AM(UTC)
I am not sure if all this arguing in Boykin's favor is meant to elevate him to a status he has yet to achieve or what. He was a decent #3 receiver last season and right now he is nothing more than that. The Packers have 2 receivers that are in the top 15 in the league for sure, you might even be able to argue for the top 10 (not sure I would but I would listen to your arguments) but that is really it. The thing is they may not need more than that. Maybe having two stud receivers and a bunch of average guys will be enough. I hope it is because for now, slow, fast or in between, that is what we have.
wpr  
#54 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 12:52:07 PM(UTC)
sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
I am not sure if all this arguing in Boykin's favor is meant to elevate him to a status he has yet to achieve or what. He was a decent #3 receiver last season and right now he is nothing more than that. The Packers have 2 receivers that are in the top 15 in the league for sure, you might even be able to argue for the top 10 (not sure I would but I would listen to your arguments) but that is really it. The thing is they may not need more than that. Maybe having two stud receivers and a bunch of average guys will be enough. I hope it is because for now, slow, fast or in between, that is what we have.


With 2 stud receivers that will give the "average" ones more opportunities. If they run their routes and catch the ball they will have solid numbers no matter it hey are #3,4 or 5 on the depth chart. There is plenty of Aaron to go around.
Zero2Cool  
#55 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 12:57:17 PM(UTC)
sschind said: Go to Quoted Post
I am not sure if all this arguing in Boykin's favor is meant to elevate him to a status he has yet to achieve or what. He was a decent #3 receiver last season and right now he is nothing more than that. The Packers have 2 receivers that are in the top 15 in the league for sure, you might even be able to argue for the top 10 (not sure I would but I would listen to your arguments) but that is really it. The thing is they may not need more than that. Maybe having two stud receivers and a bunch of average guys will be enough. I hope it is because for now, slow, fast or in between, that is what we have.


Two WR that are in the top 15? Did the Packers make a trade that I am not aware of??

Jordy Nelson and ... ???
wpr  
#56 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 1:25:40 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Two WR that are in the top 15? Did the Packers make a trade that I am not aware of??

Jordy Nelson and ... ???


Cobb son. Cobb.

Walters #7 and 11

ESPN #7 & 10

FOX #10 & 9


These are the first 3 I looked at. I don't care what happened last year. I only care what people think this year will be like.
musccy  
#57 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 2:51:56 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
Cobb son. Cobb.
FOX #10 & 9


These are the first 3 I looked at. I don't care what happened last year. I only care what people think this year will be like.


I find it interesting that Boykin is ranked above Jennings and James Jones in the Fox rankings. Obviously those are just guesstimated projections, but interesting that non-Packer fans don't anticipate Greg and James and their 9 and 3 million dollar contracts to outperform a UDFA making about 570k this year.
wpr  
#58 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 4:04:00 PM(UTC)
musccy said: Go to Quoted Post
I find it interesting that Boykin is ranked above Jennings and James Jones in the Fox rankings. Obviously those are just guesstimated projections, but interesting that non-Packer fans don't anticipate Greg and James and their 9 and 3 million dollar contracts to outperform a UDFA making about 570k this year.


I think it is more respect of Rodgers than anything else.
voiceofreason  
#59 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 5:44:30 PM(UTC)
I don't think Boykin should be ranked ahead of Jennings, or Jones. My only point was that Boykin is a lock to start the season as our number 3, barring injury or off field trouble. That was it.
wpr  
#60 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 5:50:49 PM(UTC)
voiceofreason said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't think Boykin should be ranked ahead of Jennings, or Jones. My only point was that Boykin is a lock to start the season as our number 3, barring injury or off field trouble. That was it.


I don't think he should be rated above them either. That is why I said those that rank him ahead of Jennings or Jones are out of respect of Aaron.
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